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A sinister mother (god) places a fresh, warm batch of cookies in her 4-yr-old's playroom. The mother says, "You can play with everything in this room, but you will be punished if you eat any of these cookies."
Seeing this, the evil father (Satan) places a two-way radio in the playroom and then hides in the bathroom. The father says into the other two-way radio, "Pssss, my son, I'm telling you that you will not be punished for eating the cookies. Go ahead, eat them."
Mother catches her son eating them. While the son is being punished, she and the father laugh and laugh and laugh. "Do you think we're evil parents?" asks the mother.
"Nah," replies the father, "We're just re-enacting the Garden of Eden story in the bible. How can god be evil?"
yes, but did God teach Adam the knowledge of good and evil? if He did not then eating the fruit would not have been sin.
And how would he have known it was wrong to do, if he had no knowledge of right and wrong?
So the good thing to do was to not eat the fruit, he knew this. He knew it was wrong to eat the fruit, and once more that there are repercussions. Therefore, he had knowledge of the one sin he could possibly commit.
Originally posted by Lazarus Short
Keep in mind that the same God who planted the Tree of Life in the garden, also planted the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. God's plan, carried out through the serpent, was for Adam & Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, as a means for them, and us, to learn and grow up to maturity. Don't be fooled by God's apparent surprise when He asks, "Who told you, you were naked?" Even though they had been innocent, their eyes had been opened by the act of eating, and they had an awareness they had lacked before the eating.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Eve had the mind of a an immature 4 year old. She was created as an adult and had the mind of an adult, as far as decision making was concerned.
((what is a moot point?))
Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by logical7
"the islamic idea doesnt consider that tree as "tree of knowledge."
On the other hand Qur'an says that God Himself taught Adam the 'name of all things', i.e. Knowledge and that made Adam superior to even angels as angels only had limited knowledge(according to their job) but Adam(Man) got the potential to get as much knowledge as needed. "
yes, but did God teach Adam the knowledge of good and evil? if He did not then eating the fruit would not have been sin. If He did then what incentive would Adam have had to eat from the tree? Eating of the tree actually would have had no effect on him if so.
Get me?
Your claim is that Adam and Eve knew right from wrong. Decision making takes knowledge in order to intelligently weigh the consequences of one's actions.
So, what does the apple represent?