You won't see this Sandy Hook video from the MSM......WHY??

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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:19 AM
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My OP says nothing even remotely related to any sort of "hoax". Feel free to edit and delete your off topic post and all posters kindly refrain from ANY reference to a hoax in this thread.




posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:46 AM
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Are you kidding?

The official report didn't even come out yet, but you have made up your mind based on the MSM and here-say?


Dr.ATS prescribes reading the ATS motto 3 times a day for 1 week.



Originally posted by ObservingYou
Well, I've been waiting for the dust to settle before diving into this one.

This video makes up my mind for me, very obvious and very blatant hoax IMO:



edit on 3-2-2013 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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You know, I don't even live in the US but that speech was downright inspiring and if it got in front of enough eyes maybe "We the sheeple" would feel empowered enough to to reclaim the the honour of "We the people".




posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:56 AM
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Anytime you modify a fact it becomes a fiction.
I watched the video and he states you'll need to go to court in Connecticut to modify the state constitution, but let me quote judge-David-Wynn:Miller The US courts are in dry dock and are a foreign vessel when you enter in their vessel you are considered trespassing.

Adverb verb usage voids a contract, so the 2nd amendment maybe out the window already, but the big winners are home owners according to Miller, pay the guy 3 k dollars and get a return of 3 million before taxes. Miller also points out that the government is the biggest winner with the mortgage contract being voided, He says around 28 million for 64 million mortgages the US government will get.

He's entertaining at the very least, one mistake that appears to be a mistake, because this guy is good at saying what he means and using the hearer's assumption of what he means is the world trade center towers falling faster than free fall. According to Miller those towers fell to the ground in 4.8 seconds. Not true, but what actually might be true is the timed explosives were at the bottom of the tower in 4.8 seconds.

I'll watch his videos again since the first time through was just too hard to take it all in.

Another all the facts statement I heard in this video, the speaker clearly want all the facts, Here is what Miller told about all the facts.

A judge ordered after the defendant's claim to all the facts that he present all the facts. So Miller told the guy to practice handstands for the 30 days when he was suppose to be gathering all the facts.
So when the defendant enters the foreign vessel the Judge see the guy has no paper work and asked him to present all the facts.
The guys walks around on his hands and tells the judge, my feet are dangling in space and my hands have all the facts.
I know I didn't do the story justice as Miller did, you be the judge, what freaks me out about Miller and here on ATS is that there are very few posts about Miller and Miller's claim to be a 92nd degree Mason. No that is not a typo.

Miller talks about the Post Office owning the army, WTC towers, the money, is the main controlling factor in the world, and all the post offices around the world are in on it.

hey Miller tells that all the Iceland videos of the 5 mile long UFO that melted out of the ice and is 50 thousand years old were taken off the entire internet. I saw it once, and now cannot find it.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by vkey08
I find this whole thread to be a fail of sensationalism that wasn't even there..


I challenge you to find ANY MSM outlet footage of his salient facts being broadcast. You may find some trivial mention of him in some news articles easily accessible with any common search engine but they fail to fully explain his position and instead rave about the need for gun controls.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:04 AM
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**NEW YT VID UP**

I cannot make a thread about this yet as I am a newly registered member, so I am left to place what I found in this thread as a reply.
Also, I am using a smart phone so I cannot embedd the vid. Type the following into the YT search engine: "Person with a camera shows up during Sandy Hook". Theres more to the title, but the OP asked we not mention the "H" word.

A quick synopsis for those who can't watch:

Helicopter footage from the day while filming people meandering about at the fire station.
Camera zooms in on what looks to be a reporter taking pictures mingling with the crowd.

The camera is stationary on this particular person for the duration...zooming in and out, but definitely focused on her...which is strange to me, but I digress.

As she is taking pictures, she is approached by a woman who chats with her for a sec and is seemingly told to leave because the "reporter" begins to move away. She starts taking pictures again and is approached by a man who is obviously not happy with her being there. He is screaming at her, flipping her off, and his body language is very menacing towards her.

He berates her for a minute and walks off. The "reporter" doesnt stop...she grabs what looks to be a LEO and seems to be questioning him...perhaps as to why she cannot be there, dunno.

The LEO then begins escorting her off the property and the vid ends.

You must watch this to see for yourself as my description is very lacking.

For those that do watch, here are my questions...perhaps someone could answer?

Why is there all of this recent release of helicopter footage from Newtown? Its been almost two months and we are still seeing new things. Seems fishy.

Why is this helicopter pilot focused only on this "reporter" taking pictures!?? Of all the peeps mingling about, why focus on just one random woman?

In the vid, the first man that yells at this woman is obviously screaming and saying nasty things...all while police and civilians are close to them. What man would allow another man to treat a woman this way in public without putting a stop to it? People are there watching this whole exchange and do nothing at all....very fishy to me.

Sorry for perhaps derailing your thread OP, but I figure the search for truth is what you are after, so forgive me if I over stepped


WATCH THE VID.
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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012

Originally posted by vkey08
I find this whole thread to be a fail of sensationalism that wasn't even there..


I challenge you to find ANY MSM outlet footage of his salient facts being broadcast. You may find some trivial mention of him in some news articles easily accessible with any common search engine but they fail to fully explain his position and instead rave about the need for gun controls.


Search on any of Connecticut's major broadcast stations, radio and newspapers.. ( I can't take the time right now, and since i've already read the articles) They ALL very adequately conveyed this gentleman's points, the Hartford Courant even had his picture as their front page the other day.. None of it was trivial, none of it was whitewashed, it was all there for everyone to see. that's why they had a PUBLIC hearing on the issue.. so we could all participate and see what was going on.. *rolls eyes*

Problem is in Connecticut we have a bigger issue than guns or Newtown right now, it's called our state budget and that's where most of my state's focus is on.. Cuts and more cuts and then again some cuts..



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:26 AM
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EDIT

So I watched this vid again and noticed what I think to be a smoking gun regarding crisis actors...or...perhaps Im just looking so hard, my mind is warped, you decide.

At the beginning of the vid, the "reporter" gets harassed by an older lady. The "reporter" moves away from her previous spot, but continues taking pictures.

Right then, you notice a younger lady, perhaps a teenager, walk right by the "reporter" and COVERS HER FACE!!!!
This young lady then goes to a man wearing a brown suit standing a few yards away. Shes talking with him and pointing to the "reporter"...obviously upset.

The man walks over to her along with a LEO, they chat for a sec and the "reporter" just keeps snapping pictures...until the other guy comes and really lets her have it.

The smoking gun here for me is that the young lady covers her face when she notices the "reporter". Why cover your face if you arent guilty of a coverup?



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:27 AM
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Have any of his assertions been proven false by snopes.com because, you know, if they say it isn't true, we here at ATS just go along with it.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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My opinion of what MSM is defined here:



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Mainstream media (MSM) are those media disseminated via the largest distribution channels, which therefore represent what the majority of media consumers are likely to encounter. The term also denotes those media generally reflective of the prevailing currents of thought, influence, or activity.


The majority of media consumers are NOT likely to encounter news footage from Connecticut. However thank you for pointing out how his speech was covered throughout your state yet the MSM intentionally fails to broadcast something that was widely covered there, therefore strengthening my point of a conspiracy by the MSM.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by ResistTreason
The recent school shootings have gone from being a 99% possibility of being a staged event, to now being 100% positive staged event.

Anyone whom cannot see it yet is a foolish, gullible, non-thinking sad example of a human being. Or a shill.

It was staged, for the purpose of disarmament of the American citizens. We must show that we will not stand for acts of Treason against the American People.



If you're right...then "they" need a better market research department, and they damned well better tell TPTB to get to work! For $1000, I would have prepared a report and sent copies to the white house and every member of congress, letting them know that, rather than make guns go away, they would DRASTICALLY increase the amount of guns and ammo in the posession of citizens.

I get that there are people who feel they should be completely unregulated, like buying paper. That's a valid opinion, which I don't agree with. As far as restrictions on what type of guns one can own, that's a valid concern as well, and, while I don't personally feel the need for a machine gun, I don't think banning them will do anything to reduce the lethality of psychotics. Other than that though, nobody is trying to "ban guns" or get rid of the second amendment (well, nobody who matters) - the only proposals or serious discussions have been on banning certsin types of mass-killing guns, and in keeping guns out of the hands of the "wrong people" - yes, some of those could go to far. You can have a felony as a peaceful hippie for growing herbs in your garden and be banned from owning guns - that doesn't make sense. What makes FAR LESS sense, however, is that they staged this event in order to take our guns away. If that was their intent, it might have been the most epic fail since the '69 Cubs.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Scuzzlebutt
EDIT

So I watched this vid again and noticed what I think to be a smoking gun regarding crisis actors...or...perhaps Im just looking so hard, my mind is warped, you decide.

At the beginning of the vid, the "reporter" gets harassed by an older lady. The "reporter" moves away from her previous spot, but continues taking pictures.

Right then, you notice a younger lady, perhaps a teenager, walk right by the "reporter" and COVERS HER FACE!!!!
This young lady then goes to a man wearing a brown suit standing a few yards away. Shes talking with him and pointing to the "reporter"...obviously upset.

The man walks over to her along with a LEO, they chat for a sec and the "reporter" just keeps snapping pictures...until the other guy comes and really lets her have it.

The smoking gun here for me is that the young lady covers her face when she notices the "reporter". Why cover your face if you arent guilty of a coverup?


If you're right...then upwards of 30% of them women in America are in on a grand conspiracy! I would say at any given time when taking pictures - whether at a party, special event, or just at random, about 1/3 of women cover their faces in the presence of a camera.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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Really like this vid, nice to see someone related to this situation put a few good words in for the 2nd.


Originally posted by HolgerTheDane2
How did your great nation get to the point where it is now?

Yes it is a mystery...anyway my theory is that a free people slowly had their constitution removed and an undesired ruler was put in place to further remove the citizens freedoms. This shapes and forms society and places stress on the "oppressed" which is mostly sub-conscious (the average citizen), the more rules that are imposed causes more stress on the society as a whole, and on a personal level. Some people see thru the charade and has as such removed himself from mainstream societal view, and from the outside it closely seems to resemble a sort of slave system that is engaged to keep some people very much richer in material wealth then there is any reasonable need for...and here we are. I think it's just the stress that stems for having a society organized in a too controlled fashion, whether you are aware of it or not. Some that haven't seen through it will break due to the stress and some who become aware of it will snap because of the deep betrayal they feel.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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Come on man...are you serious with that reply?? Ok, perhaps she just didnt want her picture taken because a hair was out of place. Why then does she run to the nearest suit and point out the picture taker?

Do 30% of women who dont want their picture taken then run to the nearest man and point fingers? You are reaching there and honestly, your reply holds no water when it comes to logical thinking, sorry.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 11:21 AM
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There are hundreds of thousands of people, maybe even millions, out there that feel the same way this guy feels, but they are too afraid to voice their opinions for fear of reprisal. If the media showed this guy and others like him who DO have the courage to speak out, then that may motivate the ones who currently do NOT have the courage. The media is nothing more than the mouth piece of TPTB, and TPTB want their subjects quiet and scared.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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He sounds just like all of you with his melodramatic BS.

They aren't coming for your guns. That' s a paranoid delusion. You guys need to shut up about it until it actually happens(which it won't). Because crying about it on the internet isn't going to prevent it.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by skoalman88
Have any of his assertions been proven false by snopes.com because, you know, if they say it isn't true, we here at ATS just go along with it.


Yeah the same snopes.com that claims to have debunked 9/11?



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 12:41 PM
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What part of assault weapon ban and registration of weapons are not in that direction? Those two things shouldn't even exist in a free society. I can own what I want, it's what I decide to do with them that should dictate if I can keep them or not. The U.S. government shouldn't be allowed guns on the other hand they haven't displayed responsible use I would say.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 12:41 PM
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This shooting is tantamount to the MSM taking a simple house fire and without 1 minute of investigation to discover the who, how, and why, they immediately start screaming for a ban of anything flammable in existence. The MSM jumped right on the bandwagon for gun control with very little or no investigation complete. Are we still going to be arguing about gun control if we find out this was an act of foreign terrorism? The media knows for a fact this Lanza kid, if he acted alone, was not of age to legally own a firearm yet they fail to start every story on the topic with the fact that he stole these weapons before shooting anyone. The MSM is complicit in so many ways when reporting about this story it is impossible to think it is anything other than a conspiracy on their part to not report the truth.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by ObservingYou
Well, I've been waiting for the dust to settle before diving into this one.

This video makes up my mind for me, very obvious and very blatant hoax IMO:





99% of this video is easy to prove false.

Here are a few things in no particular order:

* the school nurse is a registered nurse, the video claims she isn't and insinuates she is an actor. The reported says that she was in shock when she asked her those questions, so basically whatever she answered should be taken with a grain of salt.

* the Facebook page was set up by the fathers friends, not by the father as the video claims. It is one of the postings, which you can read if you pause it. Also, they also say they know she is one of the victims, just not sure if she was one in the school or one of the ones at the hospital. The video claims they are claiming they don't know what her status is, which is wrong, they just don't know where her body is located, as two died in the hospital. The kids were in fact dead when they arrived.

* as for the father laughing, many people grieve differently and when tragedy hits, nobody can predict how one will react. Maybe at that second, he had a great memory of his daughter, nobody knows. And just for the record, actors get in character before they get in front of the camera or a big crowd at the Press conference. Who cares of cameras were rolling, there were still plenty of people at the PC he would want to fool if he was indeed an actor.

I could go on and on, but after seeing the photo of that man and his family morph into a photo with Obama, I have to just stop. The whole hoax theory is so ridiculous!





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