Amazing "like living crature" anomaly on martian surface in Curiosity sol 173?

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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by antoinemarionette
What I don't understand from all you "rock" and "pareidolia" people is why you haven't mentioned anything about the feet.

Because I cannot really see any feet in the original photo, as it's too small.

Resizing photos (with resampling) always creates new data that wasn't there in the original, what we look at is the result of the resampling algorithm.

As the resampling is applied to a JPEG compressed image, that already has their own artefacts present, not even the original can be considered as "clean" when we are looking at features close to the 8x8 size of the JPEG blocks.


I can not conceive of a rock with identical tiny reptilian feet that have teeny-tiny toes attached to it!!!

You can see the toes?



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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Quauhtli
In my opinion, we would have already found evidence of life by now, if we were ever going to find it. There would be some sort of "web of life" if there was anything living on the planet. There would not be just one species, but a host of things living in a food chain of sorts, this can be the only way for life to exist. Life would alter the landscape in very discernible ways and would not have evolved to hide it's presence.

That's what I have been saying for years.


Life (as we know it) is not limited to one species living in a desert planet, it needs an ecosystem to be able to survive or, as it exists, it will most likely be found as a source of food by some other species.

Sure, we find new forms of life on Earth frequently, but, as far as I know, we haven't ever found one that lives independently from their surroundings and from other life forms.

Some, like the extremophiles, live by using something that other life forms do not use, but that happens in parallel with those other life forms.


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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Benchkey
Why is it that the photo's do not have superior clarity.

Because they are usually zoomed in too much.


We have drones that fly overhead at 15,000 feet and they can ready your mail held in your hands yet these photos look like they were taken with a 1950's Brownie.

Even if that is true, there's always a limit to what a photo can show. Sure, we may have drones that can read your mail in your hands, but then they cannot really show smaller things.

In this case, the camera took photos all around the rover to get a panoramic view of that place, but that shiny object was too far away for the conditions in which the photo was taken.


We really need a point of reference and a second photo taken a day later.

Judging from other photos, it's probably very small, and I couldn't find it in photos from a different day.

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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 07:11 AM
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Maybe I can help...

So first, we have this - a site that shows the images before the actual NASA site does. The reason I am posting the link is because coordinates to each image are given, as well as other data:

curiosityrover.com...

So check "Sol 173" to bring up all of the images from that sol.

We are looking at image sequence 926 from the MastCam 100 - specifically images #19 and #20:

mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

mars.jpl.nasa.gov...



Facing Southwest at a bearing of 221.95° and 221.94° (respectively). Elevation (angle of the MastCam) is -4.76° and -8.85° (respectively).

With that in mind, perhaps we can look at other sols?



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 07:59 AM
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hi, man, interesting pic.. it really does look like a lizard, a tuatara or a basilisk, the pose is correct, and it has its back againts the sun, as we can see from the shadow, this is how a real lizard would "hang around", if this is a rock, it still resembles a lizard,

and its head is held up, lizards do this when sunbathing.
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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by impaired

Facing Southwest at a bearing of 221.95° and 221.94° (respectively). Elevation (angle of the MastCam) is -4.76° and -8.85° (respectively).

With that in mind, perhaps we can look at other sols?



Yes.
It is there on Sol 168 (five days prior to the image in the OP's), taken with the Right Navcam:






And the original image from Sol 168, Right Navcam:





If it's a living creature, it doesn't move very much.



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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 08:12 AM
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Slow metabolism. Maybe it's like a tortoise, only slower. Alert Jack Hanna.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 08:53 AM
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Poor Merlin. Hated the ending of that show!



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:06 AM
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I know really sad. And still waiting for Arfthur. But I like it it puts a new slant on the legend, as I always thought if merlin were still alive that he'd be trapped somewhere.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Pinke
Hobbyists have been making panoramas of these areas.

The interesting rock is over to the very far right in this pano

It is very shiney, so I wouldn't neccessarily think living creature but it is very interesting.


at first i was thinking just weathered rock formation at low quality. then i see the surrounding area. it is atop some sort of bedrock and fully of a different color than its surroundings or anything else i see in the picture. interesting indeed alot liken to a reptile sunbasking. tho i would be so bold as to say some sort of ore deposits left after rock had been weathered away? either way extremely good find in my opinion. worth further investigation wich im sure has been done behind the senes if we ourselves notices such an anomaly



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:44 AM
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Interesting thread, but I don't think it's an animal.

It looks like molten metal to me. Some of the rocks look like they've got fusion crust, maybe it's near a site where meteorites have dropped? Some rocks look quite reflective and there are loads of bits in the photos that look fuzzy . Have they been airbrushed?


Maybe it's all pareidolia? Nice though, I like rocks and would love a rummage around up there.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by pryed -eyed-one
...tho i would be so bold as to say some sort of ore deposits left after rock had been weathered away? either way extremely good find in my opinion. worth further investigation wich im sure has been done behind the senes if we ourselves notices such an anomaly


It still may be investigated "Not" behind the scenes. The Rover is yet to drive to that area. Curiosity has been in roughly the same spot for the past couple of weeks, only moving a few feet in that time.

Maybe it will eventually move closer to that area.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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We can all guess as to what it is, but NO one knows 100%! That's what makes it so interesting.
Always good to see something out of the ordinary on ATS, I appreciate your post!
S & F



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by cody599
I am so bored with saying this
If it looks like a rock smells like a rock and is tested as a rock
It's a ****ing rock
Ummmm.......I know...huh? Those darned fossiles seem to be all made of.....rock?

YouSir



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 10:12 AM
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Ah.. the ol' rock-colored creature # 7,842 with no feet that stays in a single spot for days. They certainly have a lot of critters there have have no need of food, water, shelter, or anything else.. that can stay in the same spot for hours or even days, is not startled by our alien rover trundling along, and they are always the same color as the rocks around them. At least this time it's a lizard creature, which can indeed to just that... at least on our planet.

Personally, I think once we do find life on a planet (which we will - but I don't think it will be any in our solar system, at least bigger than an amoeba), it will look completely.. alien to us. Go figure. Because on other planets, due to different weather.. much hotter or colder or wetter or drier.. or diet, or gravity, or radiation, or many other things, they will have evolved in a completely different way, and it will see very unique and weird to us. And it won't imo, look precisely like an earth lizard.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Arken

Originally posted by n00bUK
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You know what Arken, I may not agree with you 90% of the time. But you are a dying breed on ATS, which is unfortunate.

As for the pictures, I'd have to say that we're looking at rocks, but thank you for sharing


Thanks for your kind words.

Yes: "our breed" is on the verge of extintion on ATS.


Half of my " Old Friends" on ATS, more smart and skilled than me, like Zorgon, Internos, easynow, mcrom901, mikesingh, RUSSO, watchZEITGEISTnow, Exuberant1, they are banned or they have left ATS for some reason... :

I've no absolute truth in my pocket, and sometime I'm wrong, but "something" say me that I'm on the right way


Greetings:

Keep at it, esteemed Member Arken - we applaud your worthy efforts - and please don't go extinct like the dinosaurs!





they have left ATS for some reason...


Obviously, those guys are hiding in plain sight.



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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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I can see it very clearly. Looks very similar to a small reptile here that would be motionless waiting for prey to come by while enjoying the heat of the sun too.

I see the head, mouth, eyes, body, etc.

What I would like to see though is all the previous and following images from this exact batch of photos. On a frame by frame display.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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Happy to know that We are not alone and the Ancient Masters are always among us and watch us with their benevolent eyes....!



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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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As far as the image in question, I think it looks like a natural formation. We're more likely to find remnants of civilizations rather than actual life currently sustaining itself, therefore we should be looking for tell tale signs of manufacturing like 90 degree angles etc.

I'm still curious as to why we can't get video. Even in five second animated images we could perform a greater degree of analysis. We get these amazing panoramic images that are a testament to the technology in use (better than your phone) so why can your phone record video and easily publish it, yet NASA with all of their optics and data transmission systems can't eek out a video? Well they can, and they do. So why are those videos not publicized?



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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Arken. I have a bit of info that may be relevant to this thread and conspiracies. Or not...

I sent a U2U to Aleister explaining this, and he said I should tell you. I will copy and paste the message. It was about trying to find another location of this anomaly:


I have already checked. Nothing. The area is either obscured by a rock (which I will believe), but for that Sol 170 ML panorama? See that big black box towards the right?

i.imgbox.com...

Object of interest is supposed to be there. But here's the funny part:

When images come down, they're in a sequence. Images 1, 2, 3, etc. That panorama contains ALL images in an unbroken sequence, which means without equivocation that the area was PURPOSELY not imaged.

Purposely. Something to think about...


I'm not saying they didn't image that area because there is/was something there, but it just seems strange that in an unbroken sequence of images, that area was purposely not imaged. I do see that there may have been a camera exposure problem, but still - usually they image the entire area for a panorama like that, and they go through the thumbails and choose which ones they want.

But there were no thumbnails of that area, which means they purposely didn't image the area.

Now, whatever that means... But I thought I should tell you and the community.





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