Amazing "like living crature" anomaly on martian surface in Curiosity sol 173?

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posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by nomadros
Apart from the item in question, the thing that really gets me going (from the same gigapan) is this...



Unless the rover did that marking I guess we'll just have to wait for Nasa to come and sprinkle their explanation fairy dust on it.

at the bottom right of the image



Have a look at this section in the GigaPan view using a powerful magnifying glass two points back from full zoom.

I don't think NASA will have an honest answer to this one.




posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by arianna

Originally posted by nomadros
Apart from the item in question, the thing that really gets me going (from the same gigapan) is this...



Unless the rover did that marking I guess we'll just have to wait for Nasa to come and sprinkle their explanation fairy dust on it.

at the bottom right of the image



Have a look at this section in the GigaPan view using a powerful magnifying glass two points back from full zoom.

I don't think NASA will have an honest answer to this one.


That's a Hugo track, dragging his tail as he searches out a rock to perch on.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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I don't have a magnifying glass...do you mean the black bug things that are spread all through the gigapan?



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by nomadros
Apart from the item in question, the thing that really gets me going (from the same gigapan) is this...



Unless the rover did that marking I guess we'll just have to wait for Nasa to come and sprinkle their explanation fairy dust on it.

at the bottom right of the image


Great spot. Would someone know if this could have been due to the Rover? It doesn't look like any Rover tracks or markings I've seen. This could be odder than Hugo itself!
It's definitely on the soft/grain/soil and is not a fissure on the harder rock. I've looked around and there is nothing else like this on the picture.

The markings reminded me of the Sliding rocks at Death Valley
I look forward to updates.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by manmental
Great spot.

I agree.



Would someone know if this could have been due to the Rover? It doesn't look like any Rover tracks or markings I've seen. This could be odder than Hugo itself!

I don't think it was made by the rover, it looks raised, not sunken like the marks left by the rover.

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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by nomadros
Apart from the item in question, the thing that really gets me going (from the same gigapan) is this...



Unless the rover did that marking I guess we'll just have to wait for Nasa to come and sprinkle their explanation fairy dust on it.

at the bottom right of the image




Maybe it is a vein of gypsum (similar to the vein found by Opportunity back in 2011), but still covered with dust.

Gypsum forms in wet places, and NASA thinks that the area Curiosity is exploring was once covered in water or at least was a very wet place.


Gypsum found by Opportunity:

Source:NASA Mars Rover Finds Mineral Vein Deposited by Water




or maybe it is the straight edge of one of these flat rocks (in the foreground), but still covered in dust:



(Click Here for larger image)




By the way, here are some larger Raw images from NASA showing that object you found in the gigapan:

From Sol 173 (the pictures from the gigapan):



and some from Sol 170:



And this Navcam image from Sol 168:



edit on 2/16/2013 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by wildespace

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
The "living crature" is being reported by Yahoo as well.

news.yahoo.com...

Except they are calling it a "hood ornament".



I does look like one! Maybe is the fossilised remains of a martian cadillac.


Or maybe a truck?






posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Maybe this image will help to clarify what's really in the view.





posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 01:03 PM
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As usual, it does not help, as you reduce the quality of the image.

Making an image worse doesn't make it easier to see what's there.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 01:05 PM
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But it does make it easier to see something that isn't there.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 04:28 AM
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This is the 'original' view of the above image without any processing of the image except to add an ellipse around some of the features. Looking carefully it can be seen that there are definite recognizable shapes within each ellipse which could well be tiny structures.





posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 06:02 AM
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Sorry, I don't see anything in the areas circled. I thought you were referring to the little black object about 2" down from the top left of your pic snip that is too black to be a shadow but that could just be a dodgy pixel though. There's a good few of them throughout the pan. As Artmap says, the clear linear area appears raised rather than scored so it could just be a slight ridge that catches any wind or it could be "The Evil Alien Moles of Mars" if i wanted to go off on one. It's difficult to see though as the clear line is almost directly on the shadow casting line.

There is a lot of imagery you could "imagine" if you look throughout the gigapan...I can see a broken road running along the top and broken bridge etc along with all sorts of stuff, but they are probably just rocks of course and I'm applying mental patterns to try and make sense of what I'm seeing.

Even "Hugo" could be an optical illusion and that the shiny bit is part of a rock further away and the foremost rock could have a fracture in it, that by coincidence just happen to line up. As for the shiny part, there are some other areas in the picture that seem to reflect a burst of light, so it could just be the angle that rock is lying at that causes the illusion of a polished object.
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by nomadros
As Artmap says, the clear linear area appears raised rather than scored so it could just be a slight ridge that catches any wind or it could be "The Evil Alien Moles of Mars" if i wanted to go off on one. It's difficult to see though as the clear line is almost directly on the shadow casting line.

As there's a left and right photo, I made some a crosseye version (to me, the one that works the best) and an anaglyph, so we could get an idea of things are in 3D.



For this one you need one of those red/blue glasses.


PS: the name is ArMaP.



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edit on 17/2/2013 by ArMaP because: to add the PS



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by arianna
This is the 'original' view of the above image without any processing of the image except to add an ellipse around some of the features.

Did you use the image from the Gigapan? I ask because the colours are not the same as in the original NASA image, and it's better to use the real originals.


Looking carefully it can be seen that there are definite recognizable shapes within each ellipse which could well be tiny structures.

I recognize them, they look like very small pebbles covered with sand.


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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 07:10 AM
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I used the GigaPan image.

Your presentation is interesting and with an included anaglyph.

ArMaP, how about producing an anaglyph of the area I selected then we will find out if the shapes are indeed pebbles covered with sand.

Here is a closer monochrome view. I have to say in all honesty that the shapes do not look like 'pebbles' to me.





posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by arianna
ArMaP, how about producing an anaglyph of the area I selected then we will find out if the shapes are indeed pebbles covered with sand.

The left camera photo has a much lower resolution (around a third of the left camera's), the anaglyph (and the "crosseye") that I posted are the full resolution of the left camera, so we cannot get a better anaglyph.

PS: scaling up the left camera image would make a fuzzy left eye image for the anaglyph, so it would look wrong.


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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by ArMaP


PS: the name is ArMaP.



Oops...apologies. In my defence, there's another forum I'm on with a member called Artnap. Now to find a couple of coloured bits of plastic.

One of the great mysteries of life is that no matter how many pairs of red/blue glasses you have, you can never ever find them again once you get them into the house.

I might nip over to unmannedspaceflight and see if they have anything on this, however they do have a standing order under pain of expulsion, never ever to even contemplate the slightest hint of off Earth "organics."



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
As there's a left and right photo, I made some a crosseye version (to me, the one that works the best) and an anaglyph, so we could get an idea of things are in 3D.





Wow, thanks for this stereo image, ArMaP. It makes it clear (to me, at least) that this feature is raised above the ground, and looks like a vein of harder rock that got exposed by erosion.

P.S. arianna's martian structures are getting smaller and smaller! Perhaps martians are intelligent ants.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by wildespace

P.S. arianna's martian structures are getting smaller and smaller! Perhaps martians are intelligent ants.



wildspace, they are even smaller than the size of ants on this planet. They stand between 1.6 and 1.7 millimeters high. Their buildings are very small and a single-storey structure would only be between 3 to 5 millimeters in height but there are larger structures. Unfortunately, the majority of the structures are too small for the mastcam to resolve effectively.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by arianna
wildspace, they are even smaller than the size of ants on this planet. They stand between 1.6 and 1.7 millimeters high. Their buildings are very small and a single-storey structure would only be between 3 to 5 millimeters in height but there are larger structures. Unfortunately, the majority of the structures are too small for the mastcam to resolve effectively.

They may be too small for the Mastcam, but they should be visible in MAHLI's photos, like this one.

After all, it's highest resolution is 14.5 micrometers per pixel, we should be able to see even your Martian's babies.




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edit on 17/2/2013 by ArMaP because: I had the "H" in the wrong place in "MAHLI"


edit on 17/2/2013 by ArMaP because: To add the last paragraph





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