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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 01:55 PM
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Why is anyone in prison for a non-violent crime? I thought prison was for the worst of the worst, not for people who would do the right thing when it's time to do the right thing.

Broken justice system.




posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by doobydoll

Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by elevatedone

Now for the twist.... I know we don't know exactly what crimes these guys committed, but what would you say if they were to be released for these heroic acts? Or possibly time taken off and they can get out early?


Why?
Do people who are not inmates get a get out of jail free card if they save a drowning kid?

Good people have to pay their dues just like bad people do.



These inmates' motivation for this heroic deed wasn't to help them get out of jail early, there was no reward on offer to 'encourage' or sway them to do this, and they probably don't expect to get out of jail early either. The only reason they did this is that they are human beings and acted as such.

Just because they are guilty of making a few mistakes in life doesn't make them less than human.



It doesn't make them any more human either. It was a nice thing to do but it was also the right thing to do.

Heroes save lives every day. Doesn't get them a discount on jail time though.




Looks like some have been in a long while.

Mr Pettis is scheduled to be released in October after spending most of his adult life behind bars.


Their crimes are mentioned briefly here.
dmnewsi.com...



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 02:00 PM
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Amazing. It would not surprise me if they were incarcerated for drug-related crimes. As most of us know, the US would save who knows how many millions of dollars per year if they would not lock people up for non-violent crimes like possession, etc. There are some things that people do that show they are a danger to the well being or lives of other people, but so many of the people in jail do not fit this description, so why not come up with an alternative form of punishment? They would likely be happier, it would endanger no one, and the government would save money.

But that would make too much sense for the government, who still likes to portray that it takes the moral high road, when we all know it is the biggest criminal organization in the world. I too think they should be rewarded for their heroism. They surely did not have to do that, and with the water temperature, not to mention the current, they had to know that they were putting themselves in extreme danger. I agree with the guy that just because they are locked up does not mean they are bad people. There are even violent offenders who are not bad people, and I think our prison systems should focus more on rehabilitation rather than "punishment," which they say deters criminals. This is not true at all. The same was said about the death penalty, and that is a lie as well.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by caladonea

Originally posted by elevatedone


Now for the twist.... I know we don't know exactly what crimes these guys committed, but what would you say if they were to be released for these heroic acts? Or possibly time taken off and they can get out early?


They saved lives; they are serving their time (for non-violent) crimes; I say let them out early; and let's see what more good they will do.


Umm no.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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let them go with time served !!!!!
thank you for posting a rare feel good story on here



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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We have too many people in prison for non-violent crimes in the US...

if you have shown that you would risk your life to save someone else and you're offense
can be shown to be completely non-violent in nature I say wipe the slat and let that person start over.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
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Yea, I guess it is,read the link.Inmate help's save women from abduction.



www.msnewsnow.com... m-possible-abduction


Yes each case is different, to often they let the scary re-offenders out. The child molesters who LOVE children are the worst to me, non violent yes, most of them.

So most of you see it as if someone murdered your child but without thought rescued another child they paid the price due for the loss of yours.

None seem to care to know what they were in for before saying release, that surprises me.
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Got to agree with your last point here.

Nice story, great to see prisoners display a level of humanity that should be in all of us.

But let them out early? Wait a minute. White collar crime is 'non-violent.' What if the inmates had been convicted of a crime which resulted in your family becoming destitute?



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by elevatedone

Now for the twist.... I know we don't know exactly what crimes these guys committed, but what would you say if they were to be released for these heroic acts? Or possibly time taken off and they can get out early?


Why?
Do people who are not inmates get a get out of jail free card if they save a drowning kid?

Good people have to pay their dues just like bad people do.




Unfortunately all the really bad people are immune to prosecution and are either representing us in government or are CEOs at some bank!



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by ausername
Just when you are about to lose faith in humanity, a story like this comes along.

Refreshing.


We need to start posting with every light-hearted story:

"Another man's faith in humanity saved!"

It's cliche by now.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 02:55 PM
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America, "Land of the Free, " and home of the ex- convict. If anybody reads up on statistics, you will see what the prison population of the US is and has been. For stupid crappola, mostly.

We, in the US, are now a prison planet.

Got to love people like Sheriff Joe, who lock up basically innocent people on a daily basis to make a buck.

Prison in the US = somebody not on unemployment. Big business.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Manhater

The whole point of locking people up, is for violent crimes.

What did they get?

A speeding ticket and not pay the fine?

Didn't pay Child Alimony?

Did they get caught with drugs?


Defrauded your grandmother out of her life savings

Peddled coc aine to schookids

Were caught drink driving for the 5th time in a year

Were found to have 5,000 images of child porn on their computer

Prison is a deterrent and a punishment, not just a means of removing violent criminals from society.

And just because someone does one good thing does not absolve them of all the bad things they have done.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by elevatedone

Now for the twist.... I know we don't know exactly what crimes these guys committed, but what would you say if they were to be released for these heroic acts? Or possibly time taken off and they can get out early?


An excellent question that makes one think. Good story and excellent thread!

I would have to say first of that I'm not suprised at all that prisoners have taken it upon themselves to sacrifice their safety for children. People have this backward idea that people doing time are just all around evil people. This is untrue.. In fact, It couldn't be more false! Your typical prisoner is a human being like you or I. They are capable of love and hate and quest for the same answers in life that you and I do.

I do not see why though the prisoner should be compensated for there acts of bravery. Personally I believe that I'm indebted to my fellow man and am obligated to see to their safety just as I do my own. We must all treat our neighbors as we would want to be treated. These acts of bravery are an obligation that each person in this world should hold themselves too. That is, IF they too would want their life to be saved if they were in the same situation.

If the bank teller down the street had saved the kids. He wouldn't be receiving compensation so why should the prisoner?



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by AndyMayhew

Originally posted by Manhater

The whole point of locking people up, is for violent crimes.

What did they get?

A speeding ticket and not pay the fine?

Didn't pay Child Alimony?

Did they get caught with drugs?


Defrauded your grandmother out of her life savings

Peddled coc aine to schookids

Were caught drink driving for the 5th time in a year

Were found to have 5,000 images of child porn on their computer

Prison is a deterrent and a punishment, not just a means of removing violent criminals from society.

And just because someone does one good thing does not absolve them of all the bad things they have done.


Your argument would be a powerul one.. That is, If you can SOURCE that information... Can you?



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 05:26 PM
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They're crime could be for not paying speeding tickets (I'm sure they're more severe)... They don't deserve leniency..

To me, That would be like congratulating a single father for buying his children clothes for school.. You're supposed to do that!



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by foodstamp
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They're crime could be for not paying speeding tickets (I'm sure they're more severe)... They don't deserve leniency..

To me, That would be like congratulating a single father for buying his children clothes for school.. You're supposed to do that!


I think it's been over 200 years since buying your kids clothes was a life threatening effort. This ended well. It could have ended with the kids and the inmates dead. The effort is worth at least a consideration.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by foodstamp
reply to post by kingmonkey
 


They're crime could be for not paying speeding tickets (I'm sure they're more severe)... They don't deserve leniency..

To me, That would be like congratulating a single father for buying his children clothes for school.. You're supposed to do that!


I think it's been over 200 years since buying your kids clothes was a life threatening effort. This ended well. It could have ended with the kids and the inmates dead. The effort is worth at least a consideration.


Yes, A consideration absolutely! But that's not what my reply was about. I'm talking about compensation.. Compensation in the form of reduction in sentence which I stated above.

Let me add, As I stated above in a different post. I believe it is our obligation as human beings to risk our lives in order to preserve another's. So in this case, This is ant act that they were obligated to do. It deserves recognition of course.. But not leniency to their sentence..
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