Ancient Indians and their Ufo folklore which does not speak with forked tongue, page 9


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reply posted on 4-2-2013 @ 11:58 PM by magma
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by AthlonSavage


Please not more of this ancient alien nonsense that has been debunked time and again. Most ancient petroglyph which look somewhat like what an 'alien craft' may look like are really not all and have perfectly normal explanations. Only those with an agenda make out that they are something else that they're not. Is there even any evidence to confirm this ancient indian ufo crash story? For all we know you could have made this up, not saying you are though. The history channel is also not a credible source of information.


I was wondering about that, as the first time i saw these glyphs when they were shown on TV they never mentioned any of today's tribes knowing anything about them. I have seen them presented on TV many times since and never heard that story of the colliding ships.


It is becasue the colliding ships story comes directly from crystal link web site, which op unfortunatley left out of his references.

I can find no other reference to it apart from that site.


reply posted on 10-2-2013 @ 05:37 AM by neformore
reply to post by magma


Because its a subject on ATS, and The ATS Live Radio show discusses subjects on ATS. The clue is in the name.

So why not?


reply posted on 10-2-2013 @ 05:44 AM by magma
reply to post by neformore


Guess under that philosophy that makes any subject a candidate.


reply posted on 10-2-2013 @ 05:46 AM by AthlonSavage
reply to post by magma


www.youtube.com...

The subject of ancient indians and their folklore is covered as one of the talking points of this (linked) video where William shatner (original Captain kirk in Startrek) hosts discussion on Ufos, and vistation of earth by Ancient Astronauts. If it was good enough subject for Captain Kirk to talk about in 70s then i think its still a good enough subject to talk about today,



Guess under that philosophy that makes any subject a candidate.


not unless you can take us on your starship journey to somewhere more interesting. The stuff about indians and ancient astronauts is about 14 minutes in.

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reply posted on 10-2-2013 @ 05:56 AM by magma
reply to post by AthlonSavage


Ok, people like to believe in fantasy and make believe. Not my place to take that away from them.

David Attenboroughs lack of compassion for gay animals is at least tangible. Yet, that gets no exposure.

Pardon me for being a skeptic. I will change my view, if someone presents more than a theory. Until then, it is bunk.


reply posted on 10-2-2013 @ 11:16 PM by starrysatya
Originally posted by Kantzveldt
They're in Marble Canyon, Death Valley...








www.ipernity.com...


Here's another one for you;











'Frogs' were involved;


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The final picture reminds me of the silence from Doctor Who with the volts that shoot out of their hands.

But in all seriousness, could they have been describing what they remember before an abduction? As odd at that sounds..



reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 02:15 PM by MarsSentinel
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by magma


www.youtube.com...

William shatner (original Captain kirk in Startrek)


I had to quote this. Sign of the times. As if we didn't know......

Jezus I'm gettin old.


reply posted on 15-2-2013 @ 12:06 PM by Harte
Originally posted by ImpactoR
reply to post by AthlonSavage


Good thread, it cound be considered a credible case rather than 'it's just a story'. Let's analyze: Would the natives make up that story just to entertain each other with tales? - No, why would they bother to draw it all.

My question is, did they even have the story?

Please, OP, link us to a legitimate Native American Folklore site that contains that story.

Harte


reply posted on 15-2-2013 @ 02:46 PM by Harte
The OP starts with this:
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
The ancient indians in the American Southwest have a folk lore passed down since thousands of years ago of two objects (ufos) which collided high in the sky and one crash-landed in the region of Death Valley. The folk lore describes Men (or people resembling men) arrived and worked on repairing the damaged Craft. The repair was observed by the local Indians who recorded what they observed on rock petroglyph.


As far as I can tell, this is simply more of the lies and mischaracterizations promulgated by the Ancient Aliens crowd and their ilk.
This website is a good source for Native American folklore and mythologies. Their page on Shoshone folklore (the Shoshone are the creators of the petroglyphs in question) includes no such legend/folklore/myth.

The site I linked has a great many fantastical stories from Native cultural folklore. Yet they don't have this particular fantastical story.

I submit that this is because it is a fantasy - one arising from the puny imaginations of people trying to make a buck off the ignorant.

If I'm wrong, I'll certainly admit it. Please show me that I am.

Harte


reply posted on 15-2-2013 @ 06:18 PM by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Harte




If I'm wrong, I'll certainly admit it. Please show me that I am.


Conversely i could say please show me the OP theory is wrong. You see where it goes around in circles at the end of the day believe what you want.


reply posted on 16-2-2013 @ 10:55 PM by Harte
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Harte




If I'm wrong, I'll certainly admit it. Please show me that I am.


Conversely i could say please show me the OP theory is wrong. You see where it goes around in circles at the end of the day believe what you want.

True.

However, the claim was made that the natives had this story in their folklore. The claim was not made that they didn't have this story in their folklore.

Because I was curious, I tried to find the truth of the matter, even though I wasn't the one that claimed it was true.

Would you agree that merely typing words on a forum doesn't make them true? The OP didn't say "It's possible they had this story in their folklore." The OP said they do have this story in their folklore. Do you think it's too much to ask that a person making such a claim should at the very least be able to provide some (if scant) evidence that it's true, if they are going to claim that it is?

If not, then I could settle the whole question right now. I'm a thousand year old alien and that was my spaceship that was damaged. So I know exactly what happened and every native that witnessed anything was promptly murdered and eaten.

Prove that what I say is false,.

Harte
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