Is Obama the most pathetic "socialist" ever??

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posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:28 PM
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Well it seems the only requirement here on ATS for one to be a socialist is for one to be for worker ownership of the means of production....

So Obama being a union stooge (SEIU)... then ya... he's a socialist.




posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:28 PM
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So he's a Socialist Nazi Capitalist Muslim Anti-Christ Nobel peace prize winner with fascist tendencies...?

Epic.



posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:29 PM
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Newsweek called him a socialist? Does that mean that he is one?


Yep don't hear any capitalists saying spread the wealth, and fair share and all that other garbage.

If someone wants a bunch of money and expects government to give it to them without doing anything for it thats a socialist my definition for the 21st century.

After all the goal is to create mediocrity instead exceptionailism and exceptionalism only happens when the people themselves rise to the occasion not hide behind government and give them things they can't do on their own.



posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:30 PM
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Yeah, you're not allowed to be a socialist OR uber rich. Both are hated here.

We must all be unequally middle class.




posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
So he's a Socialist Nazi Capitalist Muslim Anti-Christ Nobel peace prize winner with fascist tendencies...?

Epic.


It just goes to show that he tries to be everything to everyone.



posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
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Yeah, you're not allowed to be a socialist OR uber rich. Both are hated here.

We must all be unequally middle class.



Hey.. Isn't that all we strive for these days? If I really bust my ass then hopefully... someday.... I can be middle class


Aahhh the American dream....



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posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
So he's a Socialist Nazi Capitalist Muslim Anti-Christ Nobel peace prize winner with fascist tendencies...?

Epic.


Socialist yes
Nazi yes banning guns
Capitalist nope unless crony counts,
Muslim have to ask Allah on that one
Anti christ considering he thinks all rights come from government where as all our rights come from the creator does make him the anti christ.
Nobel peace prize winner yep wonder how that one works after all the blood on his hands GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead
Fascist tendencies yep healthcare,education,etc are all corporate products and as Mussolini said Fascism is the merger of the state and corporations.

But don't take my word for it take Roosevelts:


The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. "


The current government has become more powerful than the democratic state itself

ETA:

Nationalsozialistsche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei-NDSAP

National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party contrary to popular belief fascism and socialism are not mutally exclusive.
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posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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Where today in Judea-Christian culture can one be taught about the Stock Market in the American equivalent to High School?? A point being if you want to observe socialism in America all you need is a 20 million a year income, or somehow be involved in the military/industrial complex. And if your really wealthy you can sell a product that only kills 27 and despite the fact you were aware that would happen, retire in style.


What is that called
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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 06:50 AM
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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 06:57 AM
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Daily Kos .. cheerleading for Obama and twisting the numbers. How trustworthy

And yes .. Obama is the most pathetic ever ....



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
So he's a Socialist Nazi Capitalist Muslim Anti-Christ Nobel peace prize winner with fascist tendencies...?

Epic.


You forgot he is also a CIA plant and I think NWO and possibly a Reptillian. This is what happens when people with low IQs start reading the work of crazy people on the internet. It is fasinating and scary all at the same time.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 10:00 AM
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Yes as clearly evidenced by his outrage at the passage of Right to Work in some States. Oh wait, he was completely silent about that wasn't he? Hmm maybe his determination that his DoJ would prosecute the financial terrorists that destroyed the economy and stripped jobs from this country? There was none? Damn.

To be frank, this economic climate was the absolute perfect time for any Socialists in power to come forward and be very vocal about the destruction being wreaked on our economy by Capitalism. The only rhetoric we have heard has been that we need to raise taxes on the rich, which despite what people want to scream and cry about is neither wealth redistribution nor Socialism. It is a very skinny band-aid applied to a gaping, sucking wound.

I am a Socialist, this is what I would be trying to accomplish if I were President.

Cancel the debt, all of it, personal and national.
Destruction of the tax code, replaced with something simple and in common language, no legalese.
Destruction of every law on the books, resumption of the Constitution with new legal interpretations of each amendment and freedom from exploitation added where appropriate, with a simple penal system in common language, no legalese.
Workers rights, ie workers own the value of what they produce.
Farmers rights.
Civil rights.
Environmental rights.
Personal private property only. Factories, retail chains etc... must be formed/operated on public land, subject to approval and revocation of the communities in which they exist.

I know I'll get flamed for all of that but I wanted to illustrate what a Socialist president would look like and yes I know such a person would have a snow balls chance in hell in the US.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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You do realize that DailyKos is a group of bloggers, right? Though they tend to be quite accurate, they're under no obligation to keep personal bias out of articles... and btw I've seen plenty of disparaging blogs about Obama. Here's one that will really get ya... Bill Moyers (NPR, PBS) blogs on DailyKos, dissing Obama. No way!? SERIOUSLY!

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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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Yes as clearly evidenced by his outrage at the passage of Right to Work in some States. Oh wait, he was completely silent about that wasn't he? Hmm maybe his determination that his DoJ would prosecute the financial terrorists that destroyed the economy and stripped jobs from this country? There was none? Damn.

To be frank, this economic climate was the absolute perfect time for any Socialists in power to come forward and be very vocal about the destruction being wreaked on our economy by Capitalism. The only rhetoric we have heard has been that we need to raise taxes on the rich, which despite what people want to scream and cry about is neither wealth redistribution nor Socialism. It is a very skinny band-aid applied to a gaping, sucking wound.

I am a Socialist, this is what I would be trying to accomplish if I were President.

Cancel the debt, all of it, personal and national.
Destruction of the tax code, replaced with something simple and in common language, no legalese.
Destruction of every law on the books, resumption of the Constitution with new legal interpretations of each amendment and freedom from exploitation added where appropriate, with a simple penal system in common language, no legalese.
Workers rights, ie workers own the value of what they produce.
Farmers rights.
Civil rights.
Environmental rights.
Personal private property only. Factories, retail chains etc... must be formed/operated on public land, subject to approval and revocation of the communities in which they exist.

I know I'll get flamed for all of that but I wanted to illustrate what a Socialist president would look like and yes I know such a person would have a snow balls chance in hell in the US.


So your solution is the antiquated Marxian revoluton? Brilliant.. That oughta work... because it had such success in the 20th century... You know.. with all the millions starved to death.

Furthermore, you fail to realize this clown is a politician (one in the same). He is simply dropping the radical pose to meet the radical ends.

Why would he ever remove the mask and fully embrace his socialism? If he did then he undermines all of the apologists such as your self.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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Is Obama the most pathetic "socialist" ever??


Obama is the most prolific "socialist" ever.






posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:35 AM
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Reagan was more of a socialist than Obama.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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That's because he is being stopped from accomplishing a telling blow ,either by bureaucrats or common sense. But he is adhering to his professors philosophies.Over whelm the system with welfare and take over. He doesn't have the time any more.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by region331
Reagan was more of a socialist than Obama.


No American President was as big of a socialist as FDR.

3000 + Executive orders..



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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:48 AM
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So your solution is the antiquated Marxian revoluton? Brilliant.. That oughta work... because it had such success in the 20th century... You know.. with all the millions starved to death.


Marxism halted in the craw of the State, where did I say anything about the State? You seemed to have missed that the point of my post wasn't about me proposing solutions, it was about outlining what a Socialist President might actually look like.



He is simply dropping the radical pose to meet the radical ends.


What a tricky bastard that guy is, acting complete opposite of Socialist in order to fool the people... that will ensure his next election... oh wait... Unless you're suggesting that he is going to illegally take a 3rd term as POTUS, what's he hiding for? Do yourself a favor and wash the rhetoric out of your brain. Obama is at the least a crony capitalist, and I personally feel he is Fascist light. And please tell me that I don't have to explain how Fascism and Socialism are polar opposites...



If he did then he undermines all of the apologists such as your self.


Am I supposed to be apologizing for Obama or Socialism here? I won't apologize for seeing value in Socialism and I didn't vote for Obama, I voted for Gary Johnson.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Kali74
Though they tend to be quite accurate, they're under no obligation to keep personal bias out of articles...

The stats quoted from Daily Kos in the OP were misleading and inaccurate. Personal bias .. be it from Daily Kos or MSNBC or FOX or whatever, tends to make misleading and lopsided articles which, in the end, are inaccurate.


Originally posted by Kali74
I voted for Gary Johnson.

Me too.





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