Dipping my toes in the water.

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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 09:22 AM
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Regardless, this is obviously an attempt from the Catholic Church to make Masons look like devil worshipers.



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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Actually, it's quite off. A square in an angle of 90°; that's 60° at best. Of course, I guess it all hinges on how you care to define "slightly".


I just noticed that the 'square' is above the 'compasses' which is also rather odd.
So the Devil is an Entered Apprentice? Like LBJ?


But of course. Even Old Nick himself can't compare in terms of true evil with lodge secretaries. Now THERE is the true bosom of all things unseemly.


Fitz



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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I looked down the list of threads and didn't see any about this commercial so I started a thread. Who would of thought it would be under a title called dipping my toes in the water.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 10:41 AM
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Looks to me like they are trying to show a connection between the devil and masons but they intentionally gave him a ring that may look like a mason ring but is not. That way they can still use the symbolism and get away with it without having the Masons in an uproar. Also to me the commercial is very in your face about suggesting a real presence of the devil today in society exists and thrives. Is it just me or is the devil/evil coming out in full force lately?



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
Also to me the commercial is very in your face about suggesting a real presence of the devil today in society exists and thrives.


I think it is just a very clever riff on the the Robert DeNiro/Mickey Rourke diner scene in the movie Angel Heart. It even looks like the same place.




edit on 2-2-2013 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer because he made a deal with the Devil for unlimited amounts of sweet tea



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 


Looks to me like they are trying to show a connection between the devil and masons but they intentionally gave him a ring that may look like a mason ring but is not. That way they can still use the symbolism and get away with it without having the Masons in an uproar. Also to me the commercial is very in your face about suggesting a real presence of the devil today in society exists and thrives. Is it just me or is the devil/evil coming out in full force lately?


Why on Earth would they give a flying you-know-what about having Masons in an uproar? It isn't like the Square and Compasses are trademarked. And there's no such thing as bad press when it comes to advertising. They're just preying on the cupidity of Conspiracy Theorists

As for your latter question, I'd say it's just you. Someone's ALWAYS coming out and saying that the devil/evil is especially "out in force" at some given time.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 11:24 AM
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This is a reference to famous people selling their sole to the devil to get where they are. Its depicted in the media and their own songs all the time. It flys over most people's heads. You have to be able to cast spells on the public to be that famous.

You father was a mason so he believed in duality. Both opposite forces are equal. Satan and God, Good and Evil, girl and boy yin and yang ect... we are bound to duality in this reality witch is the real force of God and Satan.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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The Idea Is Not New...
Yet What A Take It Has On Small Minded Folk Who Lure Themselves In Unto It...

The Ring Portrays The Idea That Even The Devil Is Learnt And Of A Higher Degree In The Matters Of Self...
Somewhat Of An Educated And Very Aware Individual. Perfect Even, Perhaps.

What then do we conclude???...

Conclude this... It is better to be thought a devil than to be openly blatant about knowledge of the evil.
My take is this... If you desire to learn of real religion... then first leanr what makes the devil openly contradict it.
Thus... you can have a finer understanding of the mishaps and contradictions. Then... you can decide to be of a higher caliber in the crafts of religion. Do not assume that freemasonry is evil or that it is of the devil... instead assume that he is of a finer caliber and it should help him to better himself and become one with god again in the near future.



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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Here's What's Funny About The Devil:

1. It Deals With: "Weights & Measures"...
Wrong: Because It Assumes That Mortals Have No Affair With Life If They Don't Serve The Standard...
Then... Along Comes One Who Does And So Much More...
It Then Drops Fools Who Deal With Weight And Measures Flat On Their Faces...
Who Then Will Live Up To The New Standard...

Apart From That... There Is Knowledge Of The Craft. No Greater Knowledge Of It Than The Knowledge Of "Respite"... And "Holy Ground"

Those Two Items Hurt The Evil Ones And Implicate Them To The Former Weights And Measures And Rob Them Of Eternal Life... But By Their Own Standards... HA!

The One Who Introduces Them To Such Knowledge May Have The Idea That It Is Impervious, But Along Comes Michael The Archangel And Redefines Respite And assures The Ground Holy That Those Who Tread Are Doomed.

Then... What Is Taken Away Is The Refutable Christendom... Which could Have Served As A fall Back. But Without Christendom... they can never rise. Weights And Measures Instead is what begets the evil ones.

Souless til the day their little angel undoes that great craft.

All who hear of michael the archangel fall in unto their deaths.

Thus you now have what some conclude the evil devilish beast banker.

Bank: Full Of Souls...
Lands: Holy Ground (To Hear The Song Of God One Time For Each Drop Of blood & Til The Death)
Insurance: Cities And Respite...



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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Dafoe is a great actor, the car is a hell of a great model and the song is classic

I like that commercial



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 03:12 AM
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S&F.

I urge everyone who is interested in the subject to watch the halftime show at the Super Bowl for more symbols and ritualistic type performances. There will probably be a lot.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by theAnswer1111
S&F.

I urge everyone who is interested in the subject to watch the halftime show at the Super Bowl for more symbols and ritualistic type performances. There will probably be a lot.


I will avoid the entire unholy ritual that is Super Bowl. I have no truck with the lazy blasphemy that is 4-down football preferring the holy trinity 3-down game that is God's own game, the CFL!

Burn in the boredom of three quarters of sheer hell, NFL acolytes! Your fate is sealed!


Fitz



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 10:31 AM
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I guess I was more than a little wrong, was going off of google translate but I simplified it and ignored some words since they were untranslatable, correction noted.



posted on Feb, 5 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by Sauron




If the top ring is even supposed to be the Square and Compasses, then from their position, the Devil is only an Entered Apprentice.

EDIT: Oops - I answered before reading the rest of the thread, thus duplicating AugustusMasonicus's observation. I should have expected that every Mason would have picked this up immediately, I guess.
edit on 5/2/2013 by Saurus because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 5 2013 @ 07:46 AM
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Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
reply to post by Gratheil
 


I looked down the list of threads and didn't see any about this commercial so I started a thread. Who would of thought it would be under a title called dipping my toes in the water.


"The Purple Walrus and his shoe" was already taken.



posted on Feb, 5 2013 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 


Looks to me like they are trying to show a connection between the devil and masons but they intentionally gave him a ring that may look like a mason ring but is not. That way they can still use the symbolism and get away with it without having the Masons in an uproar. Also to me the commercial is very in your face about suggesting a real presence of the devil today in society exists and thrives. Is it just me or is the devil/evil coming out in full force lately?


No it is not just you//however Masons and Illuminati are not affiliates of Satan. Some might think they are, but even those ones are not.

Devils are a legion and have been making a lot of plays in the past 3-5 years.

They are unseen.



posted on Feb, 5 2013 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by NarrowGate

Devils are a legion and have been making a lot of plays in the past 3-5 years.

They are unseen.


Since they are unseen, how do you know?



posted on Feb, 5 2013 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Saurus

Originally posted by NarrowGate

Devils are a legion and have been making a lot of plays in the past 3-5 years.

They are unseen.


Since they are unseen, how do you know?


He has a 'gift' you see; a very 'special' gift.

HTH
Fitz



posted on Feb, 5 2013 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Pinocchio
The Idea Is Not New...
Yet What A Take It Has On Small Minded Folk Who Lure Themselves In Unto It...

The Ring Portrays The Idea That Even The Devil Is Learnt And Of A Higher Degree In The Matters Of Self...
Somewhat Of An Educated And Very Aware Individual. Perfect Even, Perhaps.



He is not educated and only aware of what God allows. He is no where near perfect - the only one that is perfect is God. Everything/one else is flawed.


Liar liar.

Also, idk about you - but the devil has nothing to do with my matters of self. He keeps trying to get in. He keeps taking losses. So far he has done things to people around me that would give you nightmares. Still, I do not side with evil. I side with love.

That's the truth of what this is. It is a test. That simple. Satan takes from you, hurts those around you, and tests you. What happens next is up to you. Read the book of Job. I would have failed where Job succeeded, I can tell you that much.
edit on 5-2-2013 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 5 2013 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by Fitzgibbon

Originally posted by Saurus

Originally posted by NarrowGate

Devils are a legion and have been making a lot of plays in the past 3-5 years.

They are unseen.


Since they are unseen, how do you know?


He has a 'gift' you see; a very 'special' gift.

HTH
Fitz


Similar to gravity, we can not see it but we CAN see the effects of it. We can also feel it.





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