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Well let's look at existence and see what's going on. Certainly you would agree that existence evolves. Obviously it's evolving for reasons and will continue to evolve. Problems occur, and solutions arise in our existence. It's not perfect here, but as a collective we're trying to work out the kinks.
We're definitely heading somewhere. Scientists are already talking about an age coming soon with no disease, super long lives, advanced intellect, most problems solved (pollution, over population, green, wars, etc) merging with machines, etc
There is definitely some Universal point/purpose to all this. If there wasn't then none of this would be here. I know I usually don't do things if there is no point or purpose to it.
Originally posted by dominicus
Sorry but your wrong op.
I remember pre-existing, prior to being born in a body. This remembrance came from years of inner work, meditation, spiritual grace, etc.
You should read up on near death experiences to get a better pic of what's going on
It is likely because there is no 'why.'
When we attempt to describe the why's and how's of the universe, we are at best describing our minds and our human processes.
Originally posted by piequal3because14
If not Here then Where?..Nowhere?...To feel Nothing?
No Person, Religion or Masonic Knowledge Can Answer 'How' or 'Why' We Are Here
Because your unicity...in front of Life
Oh and you do not want to see the darkness I mean the...Nowhere.
I have a problem treating "existence" like it is a thing. Existing is a verb. A verb needs a subject to do the action. Man, as a subject, can do the existing. It is man that has evolved, and not existence. I mean, this is me being overly pedantic and concerned with semantics, but it is nonetheless true. "Is", "being", to be etc. are all verbs which require a subject to do them.
we are merely giving names to things, providing interpretations and not really answering anything.
But there is no universal progress that isn't fundamentally guided by chaos and chaotic forces. If there was a universal purpose to the universe, it could only be chaos, for anything that appears to be systematic can be torn down instantly by chaos.
But what is considered a purpose by man, is only ever just a purpose, fathomed, created and applied by man to his relationship to the universe, and not endowed by universe itself.
I do think it's necessary to create purpose, but only for practical reasons. And we shouldn't assume there is a purpose outside of human intent, because nothing at all shows this.
We differ in opinion because there is nothing conclusive that proves either of us wrong. This in itself is quite telling. Our idea of purpose is different, showing that it is dependent on what we make of our relationship with the universe.
Originally posted by crankyoldman
The process is made far more complicated by people with an agenda.
Why are you here?
The answer is so simple, it is beyond silly. The reason you are here to have experiences, experiences that are created by living in the game we call - light. That's it, no more, no less. You find all manner of unique ways to express, experience and learn about the game you are playing, including forgetting you are playing at all, but in the end it is all about playing the game. There is nothing more then that. Ask yourself, why does one "play" football? To experience the experience of football - that's it. Life is the same, only far more complex.
Simple, you are "here" to be "here" have the experience of "here," and, by the way, you are having a WHOLE LOT of "here" experiences other then this one you are focused on while reading, and they are all happening right now too.
Originally posted by dominicus
reply to post by NorEaster
Congrats to you coughsarcasm cough, sounds like you got it all figured out.
I really hope that in the afterlife, they have front row seats that allow souls to see the look on the faces of the freshly deceased when they realize everything they ever thought was right, is wrong. Thats gotta be priceless
Originally posted by felixjames20
I've come to the conclusion humans are here simple to kill each other, its the only thing they do and have continued to do for thousands of years.
Kind of sad really, that humans are the only known species to actively and knowingly kill their own kind for any number of stupid reason.
The truth is people won't last, they are too violent - I'd give humans a few hundred years