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Originally posted by Semicollegiate
The geniuses in the past lived in a world devoid of entertainment. Everyone spends time watching TV and playing video games. The last wave of geniuses ended about the time that movies and cars became common pastimes in the western world. John Taylor Gatto said somewhere that the average person, as a child, has about 9 hours per week to think about himself as an entity in the universe. The last bunch of geniuses, pre WW1, spent up to 100 hours per week thinking about reality and what was possible.
Psychologists think of geniuses as people who score high on intelligence tests. The actual definition of genius is the act of creation, as in genesis or generation. A genius creates something new, or genius is the act of creation itself credited to the person who did it first.
Invention is a form of activity, and most activities are done best when done for enjoyment. Genius is born of boredom and inspiration.
Geniuses will reappear when the averge, undirected person has a rule of thumb approximation of the totality of human knowledge and there is nothing else interesting to do.
Originally posted by TKDRL
Expert psycho here. I say the era of people taking psychologists, psychiatrists, and the drug pushing industry is over. Sorry bub, your industry is in it's death throes, I hope to see you in the unemployment line ASAP.
Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
reply to post by XPLodER
Dean Keith is a bit presumptuous.
einstein can be considered genius but his GR is quite utterly wrong.
Known science is still in its infancy, so Geniuses like Newton or Heisenberg
will continue to show up
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
The geniuses in the past lived in a world devoid of entertainment. Everyone spends time watching TV and playing video games. The last wave of geniuses ended about the time that movies and cars became common pastimes in the western world.
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
Psychologists think of geniuses as people who score high on intelligence tests. The actual definition of genius is the act of creation, as in genesis or generation. A genius creates something new, or genius is the act of creation itself credited to the person who did it first.
Originally posted by Semicollegiate
Geniuses will reappear when the averge, undirected person has a rule of thumb approximation of the totality of human knowledge and there is nothing else interesting to do.
we've already discovered all the most basic ideas that describe how the natural world works. Any new work, will involve little more than adding to our knowledge base.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by XPLodER
I was going to say, you mean like Steven Hawking?
I would only argue that individual geniuses may dissappear as now advancements are made in groups and teams. Instead of one crazy holing himself up in a lab for years, we now have teams of researchers now gathering and interpreting data.
Doesn't mean that the genius is gone, they just have more than one name.
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by XPLodER
we've already discovered all the most basic ideas that describe how the natural world works. Any new work, will involve little more than adding to our knowledge base.
If the man really thinks we know most of what there is to know he does not understand science or its limitations. Have a look at the world of quantum mechanics. It has shown us that we know virtually nothing of the reality of the universe. It also shows us that the tool that we using to understand the universe are limited.
Originally posted by Quadraphobe
reply to post by XPLodER
Speak for yourself
Since the time of Einstein, he says, no one has really come up with anything that would mark them as a giant in the field, to be looked up to hundreds, if not thousands of years from now. Worse perhaps, he details how the way modern science is conducted is only adding to the problem. Rather than fostering lone wolves pondering the universe in isolation, the new paradigm has researchers working together as teams, efficiently going about their way, marching towards incremental increases in knowledge. That doesn't leave much room for true insight, which is of course, a necessary ingredient for genius level discoveries.
Speak for yourself. I know a very large number of individuals who were system identified as of gifted or better iq's, including geniuses--myself included. What is interesting to note about all of us is that, we all have a pretty heavy disdain towards television.
Video games, at least among the same group that I know, are to be an interest but they're often used as taking a much needed break from reality.
I was labelled a mechanical genius
They never went anywhere. They still exist. They just don't do what society expects of them. Try being a kid with the expectation of being a great benefit to society dumped on you from an early age. It's a heavy load.
This study makes us think about greater efficiencies in academic research can be obtained," said Karim Lakhani, associate professor in the Technology and Operations Management Unit at Harvard Business School. "In a traditional setting, a life scientist who needs large volumes of data analyzed will hire a postdoc to create a solution, and it could take well over a year. We're showing that in certain instances, existing platforms and communities might solve these problems better, cheaper and faster."
Read more at: phys.org...
Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Semicollegiate
you forget to mention what happens to all these lost individual geniuses ?
This study makes us think about greater efficiencies in academic research can be obtained," said Karim Lakhani, associate professor in the Technology and Operations Management Unit at Harvard Business School. "In a traditional setting, a life scientist who needs large volumes of data analyzed will hire a postdoc to create a solution, and it could take well over a year. We're showing that in certain instances, existing platforms and communities might solve these problems better, cheaper and faster."
Read more at: phys.org...
phys.org
if individuals working together can be more efficient,
wouldn't this mean genius is more effectivly harnessed and more powerfully used?
would this not enable a genius to do much more?
xploder
in Omni Magazine, back in 1980, there was a story about the Dephi Project.( Delphi something anyway)
A test, IQ or a post graduate college exam, was given to a group of people and the result was evaluted as an IQ. The group always scored a higher IQ than any of the individuals in the group. (A support for complex conspiracy theories). This is what corporations do, using team work to cover all of the bases.
This kind of thought is only rationalization, however. Putting the known together to get expected solutions.
Genius or creative thought is more like serendipidy or insight or enlightenment. When genius happens a quantum difference exsists that never exsisted before.
Team work is a powerful multiplier, but its cost is conventionality. A human imagination is too complicated to match up completely with a language, as teamwork usually requires.
Originally posted by solomons path
reply to post by XPLodER
The basic framework for all of the sciences We know of has been laid and we've discovered the basic principles of what we currently are aware of, so anything new is going to add to existing fields and unknown or yet to be discovered fields.