Shooting at Price Middle School - Atlanta, page 3


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reply posted on 1-2-2013 @ 10:53 AM by Hefficide
Now that I've had a chance to sleep, mull over some of the things that have been said here, and gain a bit of perspective, I want to address some points.

First, as mentioned in my previous post, I live not fifteen to twenty minutes from where this shooting took place. It pains me to have to go to these measures to provide context, but I feel that it will help paint a better picture of the environment and area that this happened in. Simply stating that this is "the hood" and then going on to imply any number of conclusions based upon that conjecture is simply disingenuous and sadly misinformed.

For those who have never been here, Atlanta has evolved in such a way that even small communities end up with pockets of population segregated by race and class. It's hard to explain, but even a relatively small school district here might well service a wealthy black subdivision, a wealthy white subdivision, two or three middle class areas - one that may be mostly black, another mostly white, and yet another mainly Hispanic. Then, also, two or three racially segregated ghettos as well.

This is truly an area where an all black, inner city ghetto might well literally be just one block over from an all white neighborhood, consisting of six to seven hundred thousand dollar homes - with a single school servicing all of the families from both distinctly demographically divergent neighborhoods.

To write it off as simply "A thug in the ghetto being a thug in the ghetto" smacks of backhanded racism, IMO - and is highly inaccurate when considering the actual make-up of the area. There is every possibility that the person involved in this shooting did come from a ghetto. It's also highly possible that he is from a middle class or even exceptionally wealthy home. In fact, being a local, I can honestly say that the vast majority of violent crimes in this region are kids who come from middle classed to affluent homes. I honestly think that this is because they want so bad to be "hard" that they buy into stereotypes and images from media that are extreme exaggerations of what ghetto life is really like.

At any rate - context for those who are interested, from a person who doesn't have to suppose what it is like in south Atlanta.

~Heff


reply posted on 1-2-2013 @ 01:49 PM by GoOfYFoOt
reply to post by spacedog1973





I think its important that people understand that each event of this nature is different; the common denominator is guns and access to them by the wrong people.


I believe that to be incorrect!

The "common denominator" is a person making a choice to try and take another's life! We need to get to the bottom of how a person would come to this decision, and why they feel that it is their best or only option!



reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 02:22 AM by WaterBottle
reply to post by g146541





In a nutshell, NO there is no reason to care unless you live in a craphole like where this shooting took place.


I didn't know there was a difference in the value of life suburban school kids vs. suburban school kids. Last time I checked people were people and school shootings are all equal.



Crime is encouraged by the thugs in these neighborhoods, death is familiar to them as they do it to each other all of the time!


Uh... everyone that lives in the ghetto is not a criminal or thug. I take it you never lived there.



It is not harsh or mean or racist, it is a fact.


Nah, you're def racist, just like most of ATS. Really could care what else you try to say you're not.
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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 02:29 AM by g146541
reply to post by Hefficide



I see...
This area was razed of the projects a few years back...
I also know that the whole of Atlanta is an armpit at best compared to the rest of the nation.
Here in Sacramento we have a "ghetto" it is called Oak Park and the city wanted to "improve the image" so they put up new facades and painted streets and put in new plants and... ...They put lipstick on a pig is all that happened.
I do not understand where the racist thing comes from though, I never mentioned color.
If you associate color with a bad neighborhood, that is your demon not mine.
I dislike....thugs no matter what color they are if that makes me racist, ima have to tell alot of friends about my condition.


reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 02:40 AM by g146541
reply to post by WaterBottle




I didn't know there was a difference in the value of life suburban school kids vs. suburban school kids. Last time I checked people were people and school shootings are all equal.

It depends, if you run with thugs and live a reckless life, then yes your life is worth less.
Hint: there is not really an Amish mafia.
Not all school shootings are equal either, some are a thug targeting a specific person and others just involve a sociopath looking to make the highest body count, two wholly different animals there.

Uh... everyone that lives in the ghetto is not a criminal or thug. I take it you never lived there.

One does not have to live in the ghetto to understand that major crimes never happen in my neighborhood but they do on a daily basis in the bad areas.
I do agree that not everyone in the hood is a thug, some are what we call victims or statistics.

I do find it hilarious all of this crying of "racist" though.
There is something you need to know about me, but I don't generally dump personal details for my online profile.


reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 05:45 AM by WaterBottle
reply to post by g146541






I do agree that not everyone in the hood is a thug, some are what we call victims or statistics.


Yeahhhhhh, they aren't people, just numbers. I guess I didn't become a human until I moved to the suburban green pasture.


I do find it hilarious all of this crying of "racist" though. There is something you need to know about me, but I don't generally dump personal details for my online profile


I can only assume you're alluding to that you're black and well that means nothing. There are a ton of black people that hate themselves and other black people.

I get why you're saying what you're saying now though. You want to try and emphasize the fact that YOU are nothing like "THOSE PEOPLE". Guess what, if you are black, a huge portion of society doesn't see you as a "special suburban black person", they see you as a black person and all the negative stereotypes that come with it, ie; a thug. You better wake up to reality, you aren't seen as a special snowflake and never will be...
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