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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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Just took a look and searched my own website, it returned top of the results but was a little slow getting the return. But a search engine trying to take on google, that itself looks to be funded by Adchoice clicks from Google..... oh the irony
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Mamatus
Personally I think the thing is horrible, the colors make me want to puke. but really, I could care less. Although when I see adds like this on ATS I wonder who the owners of the site see their demographic as. A bunch of 13 year old kids or a bunch of older people with 13 year old mentalities....

P.S. I NEVER click on Ads online, not here not anywhere else. Not unless I know it is costing them pay per click. lol.


Hey I wouldn't be surprise if thirteen years are on here.

Some people are acting like them complaining about nonsense.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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Just checking before I split.

Have you all tried it for searching subjects that are commonly, or uncommonly, discussed on ATS? Try that and compare the results to Google.

As a student that uses the web to research papers? I will be giving Samuru a go from now on. The search results look quite a bit more like I would like them to. I don't know if it is simply because I did not get WikiPedia shoved in my face first, but I dig it.

I sometimes use Google scholar to find sources, maybe they can teach the Otter to do that too.

Anyway, the difference is in the liquid helium, I don't understand it all, but i understand it well enough to realize that these projects bear paying attention to.

Have fun.




posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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When searching for my business on Google under any of the key search terms I designed it for I place number one to number three. This was done without pay per click or any such BS. Pure organic listing, no money put out and I know competitors that spend 40k a year getting placed below me. In order to accomplish that goal I simply followed Googles advice and used the free tools they provide. I always felt that if you were going to pay for Googles pay per click gig than they would be less motivated to place you on top organically.

Google owns the web when it comes to searching IMHO Samuru will last as long as a teenage boy on his first car date.....



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by glen200376
invite only if they deem your site appropriate

The invite-only aspect is for people who want to pay for a Samuru site-search for their own website. It has nothing to do with indexing for the main Internet search.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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So it is nothing more than an index? I would build a cool logo, setup a server and do the same thing, except it's been done 40,000 times on the web already. Am I missing something here?



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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Considering the cumulative and historical censorship on ATS ("404ing", thread locks etc.) of pertinence to Sandy Hook, Israel/Zionism and the legalization of [that which we must not speak under threat of banning], somehow, I'd feel uneasy availing of a search engine built by folks whose personal sensibilities (or perhaps their requirement to cultivate and maintain rapport with sponsors and other third party interest groups) outweigh the objective distribution of information.

This is concurrent with my unease in trusting the integrity of tldr to objectivly synopsize and filter news content on my behalf. 

That's the thing with objectivity; you're either "all in" or "all out".

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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 08:52 PM
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if you don't like it, don't use it.
stop trying to shoot it down comparing it to google.

some of you are obviously not getting the point of that search engine.
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Rikku
if you don't like it, don't use it.


Should it not go without say that those who don't like it won't use it?


Originally posted by Rikku
stop trying to shoot it down comparing it to google.


That's an odd thing to say considering that both Google and Samuru are search engines. You do realise that Samuru is marketing itself by "shooting down", by way of "under-the-hood" contrast, most major search engines including Google, right?

Can you therefore provide us with a single respectable reason why Samuru should be exempted from the comparisons it exacts onto its competitors?
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by rexusdiablos
Considering the cumulative and historical censorship on ATS

The management standards of ATS are specific to ATS.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by rexusdiablos
Can you therefore provide us with a single respectable reason why Samuru should be exempted from the comparisons it exacts onto its competitors?

No. Go ahead.

Currently, Samuru does not support searches for adult content (porn) or potentially infringing material (torrents). The vision is to do some truly remarkable work with searches on meaningful/useful content.



posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by Rikku

some of you are obviously not getting the point of that search engine.
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That is correct, we do not, mainly because the advertising doesn't exactly make clear what the product actually is trying to be. From a first glance of the website, it appears to be a search engine and one that looks remarkably similar to that of Google. Like I have said also, I have trialed it and the serach function appeared to be rather slow when compared to google. If it has a USP (unique selling point), then by god, they should be pushing it and making it perfectly clear to all what exactly that USP is. extra DIV



posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
The management standards of ATS are specific to ATS.


The markets overlap. The creative team overlaps. Why therefore is it so highly inconceivable that policies would overlap?


Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Currently, Samuru does not support searches for adult content (porn) or potentially infringing material (torrents).


Have you not just inadvertently demonstrated two such overlapping policies?

Why are the iterated support policies not formally and clearly indicated on stremor.com's samuru informational page?

What other genres of search results do you intend on heuristically and algorithmically censoring?

As an arbitrary example, will search results relevant to the legalization or lawful use of [that which we must not speak of under threat of banning] be construed as "adult" content and therefore censored?

What level of transparency are you prepared to offer samuru.com users with regards to the specific metrics and weights of your heuristic algorithmic censoring of the internet?


Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
No. Go ahead.


I was specifically addressing the poster I quoted. Your openness to discussions of relevance to competitor service model comparisons isn't a point of contention for me.


Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Currently, Samuru does not support searches for adult content (porn) or potentially infringing material (torrents). The vision is to do some truly remarkable work with searches on meaningful/useful content.


Any student of history will appreciate the potential folly in trusting any centalized authority that takes it upon themselves to "know what's best" in terms of free choice and the imposition of impediments on the distribution of information on behalf of any collective.

There is a noteworthy incongruence between a) providing samuru.com users the free choice to exclude specific genres of content (just as Google allows the toggled filtering of content types) and b) actively censoring entire sections of the internet from samuru.com users.


Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
The vision is to do some truly remarkable work with searches on meaningful/useful content.


Believe it or not, I'm eager to consider availing of samuru especially for the purposes of research, perhaps more so if you could specifically effectively expound:

a) how saumaru.com, in terms of novelty, differs from the FactBites search engine.
b) how samuru.com is superior to (or at least parallels) DuckDuckGo's user privacy policies.

Considering the audience segment you're marketing to, ATS, who I believe reciprocally would like to communally support ancillary services from the creative team you're representative of, your answers to the questions I've provided in this post will be largely utilitarian in prompting ATS members to migrate from mainstream search engines to samuru.com.

Each of us all seek an alternative to the monopolistic scope of Google and its litany of evidenced privacy issues in light of third party advertisers and Google's past susceptibility to hacking. Indeed, stremor.com could be just the proverbial ticket. You simply need to go one step further in convincing us, optionally, with use of the platform I've attempted to constructively and cordially fashion on your behalf and to our mutual benefit (i.e. the ATS community and stremor.com), through my line of questioning, all questions exemplary of what other ATS members are thinking but perhaps failing to articulate.

On a separate and very minor note, for the purpose of the conveniently "clicking through" and/or referral traffic reports, consider hyperlinking the "visit samuru.com for search without games" graphic to the top left of the page. I've found myself clicking it at least more than once.

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posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 04:31 AM
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Can I just add that moving to Samuru.com from google to get away from privacy issues, would be a pointless task due to samuru.com's usage of Google advertising on its main search function. Google are still indexing what you have searched for and viewed on the internet and are directly marketing to you ads that reflect the recent acticvities. So moving to Samuru for privacy reasons is a moot point as far as I can see.





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