U.S. Troops denied hot breakfast in Afghanistan?, page 4

reply to post by aLLeKs

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Thanks for reminding me how much I miss Deutschland.

Good times, good times.

reply to post by aLLeKs

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And what are you talking about? YOU HAVE BEER if we had beer we wouldn't get up for breakfast either.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by MystikMushroom

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Yeah, I'm outraged that people would consider this outrageous.

They have MRE's, your're on mission. Eat the food they put in front of you.

~Tenth

I think you all are missing the point.

The point is that we have hot meals for our civilians back home, but the people who risk their lives everyday can't even have them ?

That is messed up.

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by MystikMushroom

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Yeah, I'm outraged that people would consider this outrageous.

They have MRE's, your're on mission. Eat the food they put in front of you.

~Tenth

I think you all are missing the point.

The point is that we have hot meals for our civilians back home, but the people who risk their lives everyday can't even have them ?

That is messed up.

but they are getting hot meals! two a day!

no issue.

reply to post by FortAnthem

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why do i feel like a big pussy after reading your response...

reply to post by MystikMushroom

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Wow- I really hate to make my very first post on ATS such a *itchy one- but here goes anyway.

I have to point out that your ability to pick out every possible "perk" of military service while managing to completely ignore why perhaps that "perk" is a necessity or *gasp* perhaps even well earned is really quite impressive.

And for everyones info- I've been married to an active duty Marine for 19years. He has served over 4 years in our current combat zones and more than 6 since 9/11 away from home on GWOT assignments.

1. Housing "allowances" are part of a salary package that members sign on for. Being assigned a home on base/post was a requirement of military life until fairly recently. The DoD had difficulties providing enough housing for an all professional military (means more families-careerist) and there were serious health consequences regarding very aging housing. (ie. asbestos, ground water contamination) It also important to consider the financial implications for a family having to move every 2-3 years to areas with dramatically different costs of living- but no pay adjustments.

2. Tri care isn't free. Though again, medical care is part of the contract for employment the same as Blue Cross is for other jobs.

3. Military personnel buy their uniforms.

4. The commissary prices are not the same everywhere. I can't even buy the same items in California that I can in NC much less expect them to be the exact same price.

6. Most of the recreational opportunities your addressing are only available onboard military bases and are not Disneyland Resort facilities.

7. The Military Star card can be a necessity for a young family when new uniforms & supplies are required before a deployment. And just like with any other means of credit, there is a charge for not having a long credit history.8

8. USAA is not discounted insurance. I could do much better with Geico pricewise. What USAA is however, is an extremely quality organization. There are definite benefits in having access to it.

9. Pretty much the only time my husband has used a mess hall regularly was during deployments. And FYI, you receive a food allowance which is either included in your pay, or removed depending on whether or not you are utilizing it. Meaning, it's not free- part of a contract agreement for employment.

11. In 19 years my family has not once been able to take advantage of a Hops flight- because we're not together or can't run the risk of running over my Husband's available leave time.

Also, I think it's important that you remember that these are individuals who do not work standard 40 hour weeks by a long stretch. There are weeks/months at a time spent sleeping in tents in the field living off of MRE's even when they are not deployed. As well as nights/weekends/holidays standing duty and the inevitable must be "on-call" even when on leave. We've had to leave family at Christmas so my husband was 2hrs less from work in case he's called up.

You do see a large number of "badass" vehicles on military bases. Please remember that your talking about a work force of primarily young men. Young men who before marriage are living on base and deploying. What else are they gonna buy?

Just a little FYI re the MRE's. It is not healthy for most servicemembers to be relying on them for nutrition for extended periods of time. They were designed as high fat content foods to be useful when living outdoors in extreme conditions where standard food preparation wasn't available. When people are deploying 3, 4, 5 times for 1 year plus at a time eating only MRE's- it can create dangerous health concerns, and their bodies do belong to the US Gov't; it's an obligation to protect their investment.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

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This article of information does not even raise an emotion for me. For starters the soldiers choose to become soldiers and they choose to accept the conditions of war. Plenty of locals in the country they occupy barely make a living and barely get by and have to live with the threat of being killed by a soldier - before they even think about breakfast!


There are plenty of people on the planet that don't get breakfast full stop. Maybe this is why the soldier suicide rate is so high. The soldiers are trained - given a gun - given vaccines and medications for who knows what - they go out and kill some innocent locals and then over breakfast they realise the futility of their position.


Then the hot breakfast gets taken away and they start to think about their lives and the 'war' they are fighting. Not getting a hot breakfast is not the worst thing that could happen. Maybe they should leave the army and come back home and make their own hot breakfast.

Personally I would much rather the army take away the guns and bombs. Then the soldiers could help rebuild the communities they have destroyed - much more productive.

Much Peace...to all the people who are starving right now...

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

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They weren't drafted. They volunteered. They're being fed. I have no sympathy for them just because they don't get biscuits and gravy, or bacon sausage and eggs.

reply to post by 200Plus

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I talked to a Nam vet the other day that told me he'd rather do 10 years in Nam than a year in Iraq or Afghanistan. He cited your same reasons, they got to go on R&R, drink, smoke weed and get hookers while most of us in the ME spent our entire time in the field with no form of release. I got one beer on the Marine Corps B-day and it's the 2nd best beer I've ever had (the first being a combo of beers in Germany on the way home)

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

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I haven't been to Afghanistan, but I was in Iraq. Anyone who has been in the field could probably care less if they don't get a hot breakfast (they've got showers and real toilets on bases and that's enough to be happy). All the FOBbits are probably up in arms though (a FOBbit is anyone who stays on a base their entire deployment).

reply to post by ChrisF231

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they've got pizza hut and KFC in Kuwait and subway at Al Asad in Iraq.

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