Not a revolution, but a civil war, I am very sadly afraid.
You cannot beat your government. In your fear of outsiders, you equipped them too heavily- your firearms are meaningless to them.
But of course you can kill your neighbor. And all this talk I see here reflects a mistaken conclusion that it is "the people" against "the government".
But the government was voted into place by people. It represents half of the people. The Democrats and the Republicans are the people.
I observe my brother and my father on opposite ends of this clash, they can barely talk anymore.
The government shall watch while you kill each other. Keeping this house divided (and weak) has been very, very, successful. It makes me want to cry. You won't see me cheering this on.
Jefferson said it best "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. "
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I am sad to say, he's dead on.
Do we have a redress? Do we take the streets and revolt? Maybe eventually, but our founding fathers gave us another way. It is not the clearest way, not every Founder believed in it, the history is sketchy. Scholars are lined against it. But there can be no doubt what Thomas Jefferson and James Madison meant when they penned the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions. The States, therein the people, can, and must, say one word to the Federal government in this, and other, unconstitutional instances:
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by ldyserenity
Sorry to say but experiencing Christie Whitman and Jeb Bush and a myriad of other "STATE" politicians, it isn't them that are gonna get us out of this mess, they're all just extensions of the same figure, extensions of the federal government and like someone else said, they're all drinking buddies, it's like the states mentioned here are basically cutting off their nose to spite their face (They are just as bad if not worse about who they represent, Just ask Delaware about the Duponts and how many local political pies their fingers are in, both figuratively and otherwise).
In some states this is the case.
BUT…..you are free to move to a different state if you disagree with the state government; there are 49 other options for you. What are your options when you disagree with an overbearing federal government? Renouncing your citizenship is pretty EXTREME, don’t you think? That’s a lot more of a commitment than moving to another state.
hat is the best idea i have read in a long time,
gut the whole lot, everyone in power of any kind on
fed leve , gone and start over.
its about the only way to fix things, otherwise the monkeys
will still be in there throwing wrenches into the works.
California has joined its fellow 49 states in politely petitioning the White House to secede from the union.
Since President Barack Obama's re-election last week, those unhappy with that outcome across the land have taken advantage of the We The People website (petitions.whitehouse.gov...), that allows citizens to post petitions on just about anything that bugs them.
They wouldn't be able to if they're all dead, now would they?
We do outnumber them.
And I don't think this way will work because state's have their own agendas as well too much power in the hands of very few.
Originally posted by DaTroof
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by DaTroof
It's going to hell PERIOD, no matter who is in office.
But good article, seabag!
I have reservations about its optimism, but for lack of anything else- I'll take it.
How exactly? What period of America was ideal? The 80s? The 50s? The 1850s? Also, you realize you have more freedoms now than ever with the internet. Go back to 1955 and tell me how free your speech is.