I don't know if I can continue this discussion. I am currently working very hard and negotiating a promotion at work, and responding here means I have
to get up at 5 AM... this is getting very tiring, as interesting as it is.
Lots of people felt resentful at having their tax money go to things like invading Iraq, or having their sons and daughters lives be sacrificed for
things like that.
I keep trying to say I don't want to engage in going off topic here into the gun control issue, but I seem to be a voice in the wilderness. The reason
is that my personal position on that is complicated and (as is usually my style) it is moderate and tends to sound ambivalent at first, attractign
attack by BOTH sides, who imagine I am one of the "other side". Then I'll have to get up at 4 AM and respond to multiple snarky posts each morning.
But I'll say this- I have no desire or intent to have an influence upon the laws of the US, state or federal. I realize I am not there currently so
figure I forfeit my rights to vote (though legally I still have it). I consider myself a citizen of the world, and if any issue means that much to me,
I go somewhere that is reflects my own values and positions on it- the world is a big place with some of everything.
I prefer gun control and background checks. I prefer that people who have been treated for violent crime and dangerous mental illness most of their
life be refused firearms. I prefer people be educated in how to safetly store and use them. I prefer that the government I am under be kept small,
with a smaller military, less power, and more investment done in protecting employees rights and a basic social security. I have all that at the
moment, so feel absolutely no drive to push it on people who do not have the same preference.
I do not feel that the Constitution is detailed enough to provide much guidance without some work a interpretation. It provides ideals, which are
great for pulling people together in a shared scope. But with time things need to be worked out. I also get blasted for suggesting the same thing
about the french following the Napoleanic Code- in which those working for the trains get a bonus each month because of the risks of getting coal in
their eyes, the farmers get a bonus each month to pay for each of their horses they have (so they can pull the plow ), office workers get a Bicycle
bonus, because they must be riding a bicycle to work around all those horsedrawn carriages in th street.... the people don't want to change that holy
document because they are abusing it.
I like having some structure and plans we use to construct a society, but I also see necessity to have some flexibility and pragmaticism in life. But
even if you people want to cling to that document, then you must be coherent- insist upon the rights of every citizen to have nuclear weaponry if they
want it, to have any weaponry that the government can have! That is the only way you will keep your power faced with the government.
And by "social security" I didn't mean just retirement. I should have explained. In this country, the security that the people provide for each other
is wider than just retirement- they also include basic healthcare for all other ages, and some basic financial aid in case of need such as
unemployment. Each time you are paid, you get a run down of how much of your pay went to each (retirement, health, unemplyment...) and the total of
what you have paid into them so far. If you lose your job, that is how much you have the right to get- exactly what you paid into it, not more, not
less. Except healthcare, which provides basic care and is multipayer system, with private medical care providers of your own choice.I was refering to
Now it has cut off the rest of your text. But I really have to go. I guess my mind has not been changed on my opinion that I wish a form of revolution
could be attempted that was not of the traditional form. I think you tell a lot of these people they're going into the streets with their guns to
revolt, they will be excited and lacking any real tangible enemy in front of them, and turn to imagining the civilians around them are that enemy
In my mind, that is being manipulated by your enemy in power (the ones with the drones and multitudes of other technology). I also can't help rolling
my eyes a bit at the popular assertion that "I am individualist, I think for myself and am free" while pledging obedience to a peice of paper written
by men long long ago (above and beyond whatever the context currently is). That is as free thinking as a Christian or a Muslim.
10-2-2013 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)
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