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Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by BitingRogue
Thats the point, nobody knows if they want it or not, because their government does not allow them to speak.
Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by BitingRogue
Yes they can and they do, it is called being threatening with the use of force. Do you even believe in open and free elections? Or is it ok just for a leader of a nation to say he is in power and that it will never be put up to a free election or indeed have any oposition from any other political leader or movement. I get the sense you do not believe in freedom at all. Maybe that is why you are so bitter, because you live in such an oppresive country where your freedoms are taken from you and your hatred of any nation that has a better life for their citizens indoctrined into you since birth.
Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by BitingRogue
The people cannot raise their own democracy, because if they try to protest for this, they are arrested, their family is beaten and they are sometimes killed. How can you protest for democracy if that will happen to you?
As for your thought that if the people wanted to raise up against the Government power then they would, but isn't that a contradiction of what you say about America and its empire? Why do the oppressed nations not just raise up against them, if thats all it takes of course?
Originally posted by CuriousR
All this talk of "shaming the US", involvement of NATO, Russia, China, etc... is distracting from the actual problem. Yes, I'm sure North Korea feels like a cornered animal seeing as the whole world is putting preasure on them. Yet, some people seem to lose sight that it really is almost the WHOLE world that views NK as a threat. Not ONLY the United States. So there is validity to the concern. The ruling NK regime is not only a threat to neighboring countries, but it's an active threat to it's own people. Instead trying to change, they still actively persue ways to keep others riled.
They have been given MANY chances to actively persue peaceful talks with SK, and at times they agree to drop this whole damned rediculous posturing in order to better themselves, and to feed and house their people. Yet, as soon as things start to look up, they start making threats to get the pot stiring again. All the while accepting aid from the same people they threaten. They can't be happy at peace, so they actively persue war.
A government like this is very unstable, and it would not surprise me one bit if they suddenly decided to launch a nuke at their closest target. They can't reach our shores, so they might try to bring us to theirs.
Originally posted by BitingRogue
They have never threatened me.
Originally posted by michael1983l
Originally posted by BitingRogue
They have never threatened me.
We will never know if that statement is correct will we as you are just hiding behind the cowardice of anonimity. And going by your posts so far, your word certainly isn't one that we can just take as accurate, given the amount of bile you have spewed so far.
Originally posted by CuriousR
reply to post by BitingRogue
This is the only relpy you will get from me. You know very well they are unstable. If you truely believe they aren't, then you are delusional to some extent. Otherwise, you are just "rooting for the dark side" here.
Originally posted by CuriousR
reply to post by michael1983l
Agreed. I don't think he's even aware of how many of his own oppinions he's contradicted so far. Oh well... let him stew and mouth a bit, while we get back on topic.
Speaking of the topic at hand, S&F for you O.P.edit on 1-2-2013 by CuriousR because: (no reason given)