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Originally posted by maes2
monotheistic religions are all from one source.
even their Messiahs are common.
did you know that all jews, christians and muslims are awaiting Jesus !
Jews reject Jesus as Messiah. (except for those Christian Jews in the 'jews for jesus' movement). They are not awaiting his return. They are awaiting for their messiah, and they do NOT think it's Jesus.
Christians believe that Jesus is God Incarnate. It is in their bible and comes from first hand accounts from the life of Jesus .. from those who actually knew him or knew his Apostles. He was murdered and He rose from the dead on His own power. They await His return at the end of the age.
Dude .. I don't know what your obsession is with trying to get Christians to convert
or believe that they have the same God as you etc etc etc.
No matter how many times you post this stuff, it doesn't change the fact that Christians and Muslims have different Gods and Islam isn't all rainbows and unicorns like you want people to think.
Muslims get their notions about Jesus from the 'visions' that Muhammad supposedly had ... 600+ years after
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by FlyersFan
Muslims get their notions about Jesus from the 'visions' that Muhammad supposedly had ... 600+ years after
Not that 600+ years nonsense again. If "older" meant "truer", you should be Jewish or a hindu. Because those religions are also older than the New Testament.
It's not nonsense to state facts. Muhammad made up his stories about Jesus 600+ years after Jesus was on Earth.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
The fact is that NT theology borrows heavily from OT theology.
A Jew can just as well claim that Jesus twisted OT scriptures to pose as the messiah.
And its a FACT that the New Testament was written much after the Old Testament.
Originally posted by shivaX
reply to post by Murgatroid
If you want to understand a religion you do it by understanding by what it contributed to humanity.
Which religion is the source of most terrorism today?
Which religion instructs that people of other religion should not be tolerated?
Which religion is responsible for many deadly terrorist attack like 9/11?
Cultural events in America as a whole, in Tennessee, and even in Memphis caused me to see more and more of an anti-immigrant and specifically anti-Muslim sentiment, and it was time to see if there was anything to the fears I was hearing.
reply to post by FlyersFan
Jews reject Jesus as Messiah. (except for those Christian Jews in the 'jews for jesus' movement). They are not awaiting his return. They are awaiting for their messiah, and they do NOT think it's Jesus.
Y'shua was not a mere victim of a mob. Nor was his death an accident. It was the very purpose of his mission. He gave up his life as an atonement for sin. His words mean nothing apart from this final action. The "good news" is that the Messiah willingly stood in our place and, by dying, took the penalty which rightfully belongs to each one of us. But he didn't stay dead. By rising from the grave he defeated the power of sin and death and enables individuals to have a new relationship with God. And it is this power-- the power of the resurrection--which is available to anyone who believes. This power has been changing lives (of both Jews and gentiles) since the first century. One Jewish man who knew of this life-changing experience was Alfred Edersheim, the British scholar and author of the last century. His book, The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, was originally published in the 1880's and is still considered one of the most authoritative sources on the subject. His Jewish view of Y'shua pre-dated the more recent wave of Jewish scholars who have been increasingly curious about the New Testament. To conclude his chapter on the resurrection he writes, The importance of all this can not be adequately expressed in words. A dead Christ might have been a Teacher and Wonder-worker, and remembered and loved as such. But only a risen and Living Christ could be the Saviour, the Life, and the Life-Giver--and as such preached to all men. And of this most blessed truth we have the fullest and most unquestionable evidence. 7 There is only one reason why a Jew should believe in Y'shua. It is the same reason why a gentile should believe. It has nothing to do with convenience or social standing. Nor does it have anything to do with Y'shua's good moral teachings. The only reason anyone should be for Y'shua is because of who he is and what he has done: It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Messiah Y'shua came into the world to save sinners. 1 Timothy 1:15
Muslims are people too: This one seems like such a given that it shouldn't need to be said, but it does. If we would just take the time to actually get to know and talk with people who are different from us, we would find there is less difference than we think and so much room for kindness. No, we are not all the same in our beliefs. Yes, there are mutually exclusive ideas in various religions. But the real point here is that Muslims are humans, not just a religion or a set of beliefs. Muslims tuck their little daughters and sons into bed at night too.
Originally posted by MamaJ
No... not all jews. There are many who do believe.
Originally posted by ParasuvO
Another thing is the Old Testament's proclamation of a Messiah, the Jews are correct on this issue, he has not arrived yet...and they are the ones CLOSEST to the subject.
Originally posted by MamaJ
Why it is the Abrahamic religions are the most violent I will never know.
Originally posted by MamaJ
No... not all jews. There are many who do believe.
"I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars" ~ Revelation 3:9
"The Illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramus brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities existed. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."
"The Old Testament is simply the history of how Satan became prince of the world, and caused our first parents to defect from God. It relates how the synagogue of Satan was established on this earth, it tells how it has worked since to prevent God’s Plan for the rule of the universe being established on this earth. Christ came to earth when the conspiracy reached the stage that, to use his own words, Satan controlled all those in high places.
He exposed the synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9; 3:9) he denounced those who belonged to it as sons of the devil (Lucifer), whom he castigated as the father of lies (John 8:44) and the prince of deceit (2 Cor. 11:14). He was specific in his statement that those who comprised the synagogue of Satan were those who called themselves Jews, but were not, and did lie (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). He identified the Money-Changers (Bankers) the Scribes, and the Pharisees as the Illuminati of his day.
Illuminati Roots
"...a group of people rose to leadership positions in Jerusalem called Pharisees. They looked like their Jewish counterparts, were well versed in prophecy, were well educated and seemed to be advocates for the Jews during their Roman oppression. One problem, they weren’t Jews!
When the Messiah came exactly as prophesized, the Pharisees told the Jews, this man was a fake, and proposed a traditional Roman execution for him, which was also prophesized long before the Romans even existed. This Messiah came in His Father’s name and said he would be rejected, but another would come in his own name that would be accepted.
This book is the story of modern day Pharisees who say they are Jews, but are not. They blamed the Romans for crucifying Jesus, but they insisted on it, not the Romans. Later, they convinced the world to lay blame on Jews for rejecting the Messiah, but they are to blame for that, not the Jews.
There's Still Nothing New Under the Sun. Howard Ratcliffe
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by maes2
Im amazed too. Why it is the Abrahamic religions are the most violent I will never know. Or... maybe I do know. Is it because Abraham had an affair? Karma? Why is it these three religions war like they do and cause havoc for the rest of the world....hating and warring?
One group and one group alone is responsible for virtually all wars and bloodshed on the face of this planet. This evil cabal is few in numbers but, like a deadly octopus, its tentacles reach out to grip and strangle untold multitudes of innocent victims. The initiates of every secret society and internationalist organization, from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Jesuits to the Bilderbergers and the Order of Skull & Bones, obey the dictates of this sinister group and tremble when standing before its leaders.
The cabalist group I refer to is the Synagogue of Satan, an ancient, yet modern, elite so politically powerful and so fabulously wealthy that even past history has been twisted, reshaped, and revised to meet its preferred version of humanity's gloomy, totalitarian future.
Religious in nature, the Synagogue of Satan is, at its essence, a grotesque, satanic cult. It's high council is composed of High Priests of Lucifer; these are men who literally worship death while practicing sexual magick and occult rituals of the blackest nature.
The Synagogue of Satan
"After forty years of patient study of the crises which faces humanity, I arrived at a very simple conclusion-all conspiracies are Satanic! " Eustace Mullins
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by maes2
Im amazed too. Why it is the Abrahamic religions are the most violent I will never know. Or... maybe I do know. Is it because Abraham had an affair? Karma? Why is it these three religions war like they do and cause havoc for the rest of the world....hating and warring?
Don't get me wrong.... love em all... love me some Jesus.... but there is a time for peace and love ~ and its NOW.
Originally posted by Murgatroid
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by maes2
Im amazed too. Why it is the Abrahamic religions are the most violent I will never know. Or... maybe I do know. Is it because Abraham had an affair? Karma? Why is it these three religions war like they do and cause havoc for the rest of the world....hating and warring?
There is only one answer to that question: the Synagogue of Satan.
This is the missing link between all conspiracy theories.
This group remains HIDDEN because most don't believe in them or WANT to believe in them.
One group and one group alone is responsible for virtually all wars and bloodshed on the face of this planet. This evil cabal is few in numbers but, like a deadly octopus, its tentacles reach out to grip and strangle untold multitudes of innocent victims. The initiates of every secret society and internationalist organization, from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Jesuits to the Bilderbergers and the Order of Skull & Bones, obey the dictates of this sinister group and tremble when standing before its leaders.
The cabalist group I refer to is the Synagogue of Satan, an ancient, yet modern, elite so politically powerful and so fabulously wealthy that even past history has been twisted, reshaped, and revised to meet its preferred version of humanity's gloomy, totalitarian future.
Religious in nature, the Synagogue of Satan is, at its essence, a grotesque, satanic cult. It's high council is composed of High Priests of Lucifer; these are men who literally worship death while practicing sexual magick and occult rituals of the blackest nature.
The Synagogue of Satan
This is also WHY Eustace Mullins made this statement as well:
"After forty years of patient study of the crises which faces humanity, I arrived at a very simple conclusion-all conspiracies are Satanic! " Eustace Mullins
Your hate does not promote peace. If you are a Christian then you may want to try and be like Jesus. He didn't hate. Not trying to upset you just trying to show you that if you look in the mirror you will see a person who is not being friendly to others who think differently that you.
Im amazed too. Why it is the Abrahamic religions are the most violent I will never know. Or... maybe I do know. Is it because Abraham had an affair? Karma? Why is it these three religions war like they do and cause havoc for the rest of the world....hating and warring?
Don't get me wrong.... love em all... love me some Jesus.... but there is a time for peace and love ~ and its NOW.