but if you ask for more than that you'll just get more played out platitudes. the hatred towards obama is as real as it is racially motivated, in my opinion. im white, american, male, southern, and none too fond of obama

People who call him a socialist and communist have no idea what they're talking about

Therefore, an alternative conceptual packaging of political ideas and politico-economic

systems would be that of ranking the degree of individual freedom versus the degree of
centralized political control. Under such an ordering the corporate welfare state and socialism
are at the same end of the spectrum. Hence we see that attempts at monopoly control of society
can have different labels while owning common features.
Consequently, one barrier to mature understanding of recent history is the notion that all
capitalists are the bitter and unswerving enemies of all Marxists and socialists. This erroneous
idea originated with Karl Marx and was undoubtedly useful to his purposes. In fact, the idea is
nonsense. There has been a continuing, albeit concealed, alliance between international
political capitalists and international revolutionary socialists — to their mutual benefit. This
alliance has gone unobserved largely because historians — with a few notable exceptions — have
an unconscious Marxian bias and are thus locked into the impossibility of any such alliance
existing. The open-minded reader should bear two clues in mind: monopoly capitalists are the
bitter enemies of laissez-faire entrepreneurs; and, given the weaknesses of socialist central
planning, the totalitarian socialist state is a perfect captive market for monopoly capitalists

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
I'm a Canadian and I love the USA, let me just make that clear right off the bat.

The United States basically gave birth to modern history as we know it, and it's an exceptional nation for a whole host of reasons, not the least of which is the well meaning, decent and hard working ethic, family and community values etc, of it's people. I mean as a nation you've still got it going on, and so let me remind you just who and what you are, and remain. Now of course there'll be one or two of you, at most, hopefully, who are sure to say "listen up Canadian panzy hippy Jesus freak, we don't need YOU to tell US what a great nation we really are, and if it wasn't for us protecting your asses, you'd be screwed what'ya got some Indians and a Mountie on a horse, compared to us you're an insignificant fly at best, we rule the world so get used to it" to which I would reply, very calmly if not with an inviting smile, "have a beer eh" and then see what ya gotta say to that.. in other words, save it, and have a beer, for real.

Seriously, while we know and love and remember who and what you have been and to a degree still are as a nation, we've been rather concerned you might say, for what going on over a DECADE now! To be honest it's ruined many of our lives, including my own worrying about you along with the state of world affairs ie: it all went to # OMG!

I'm not going to try to "diagnose" the fundamental underlying nature of the problem, and truly only an American citizen is entitled to do that, what is it for me to say, or even for that matter the entire watching and somewhat horrified world..

Only you can somehow fix it, and make "it" better, because if you can't then we all may be screwed, hey at least we're in it together as "North Americans", and it's not like the whole continent is breaking up or losing integrity anytime soon - so maybe it's not too late?

The degree of constructive optimism vs. absolute cynicism and apathy, will tell the tale now, and since we're at a conspiracy website it may be tilted a little in favor of an abject state of utter powerlessness in the face of unseen forces of wickedness and evil, in both high and low places, about which there is absolute nothing we can do but rail against it forever in eternity, giving in to the matrix and the dumbing down (sorry gotta check my device brb..), ceasing to rage against the machine, giving up..

And that's what scares me more than anything, at any level (and I'm deep), your surrender to the "status quo", as if you don't make a difference, helpless to enact meaningful change and transformation while some Alien or the Pope or one God or another greedily harvests your energies in some insidious plot to enslave us all (sound familiar?, and I know that there are many among you prepared to argue in FAVOR of this, unto your dying breath if need be, I know, trust me I KNOW maybe even more than I'm letting on..

So in the final analysis, here's what I see, as the eternal optimist that I am or have become, have been convinced to become by reason and logic.

I see a fulcrum in our midst, a great historical fulcrum, a turning point, even in alignment with the stars as a force of gravity, since universal principals of truth and justice are just that, universal, they bend the whole distance... (sit with that for a while oh yea of the meditative persuasion).

And here's the thing. It's at the expense of all the idiots and all the nonsense don't you see? So it's a fulcrum that also leaves "burning coals on their heads" (see Proverbs), and that, my friends, my good American friends, is very funny - so the contrast that you've created, on the dumbing down scale of things (you might say please forgive me I'm sorry for saying it), is PERFECT, and right now, at this very moment in human history, like no other, is represented the opportunity of a lifetime even if only because things just simply can't get any worse than they've gotten, it just HAS to get better, it can't not.

Therefore, it's a GREAT time to be alive my American friends, like no other. Congrats on not COMPLETELY falling apart like the Roman Empire, and utterly crumbling, we're glad to see you getting back up and on your feet again that's a relief on the economic front, but what now..?

Run for office, build a company, come to power, because there's nothing more powerful than a central idea whose time has come, and God help the politicians, and corporate bullies everywhere, because I am here to proclaim, from this particular channel of the noosphere, maybe even from the cusp of it's cosmogenesis, that YOU LOST, and WE WON.

It's already a done deal - we've woken up ONE ENTIRE GENERATION of the American populace, or close to it (yeah there's a LOT of "dumbing down" around the fringes..).

COME TO POWER, for the love of God, and when you do NEVER compromise your integrity, be a rock and do not blow with the winds of (I don't know what to call it it's that bad).

And against our rock of truth and reasonableness, their "house" will, go, thump, while the spirit of Christ comes like a thief in the night, to set right the pillars of righteousness, and may the demons in the system have nowhere left to hide... imagine that... imagine, that.

It IS a new age for mankind - that's all my monicur represents, is just the hope, the mere hope, that we can leverage this fulcrum, and lay the foundation of a new model and a new way of doing things, with both the utmost awareness and, the utmost humor, and joy.

Please, for the love of God and people everywhere, do not give up on your country or yourselves or your neighbor by any means, there's no REASON to. None.

Paranoia is also a big Destroya.. - don't forget that, you've got to be very careful and very discerning before you write your own country off as forever beyond retrieval, because you are an American, and what does it say about you to hold such a cynical view, both of your country and the whole world for that matter, why must it be all FUBAR all the time, that's stupid and utterly inane to hold to that position at any and all cost, in fact it's absolute hilarious when you really stop and think about it..

So I say Godspeed my American fiends and neighbors to the south, Godspeed, and

May God, once again, bless, the United States of America, and, the rest of the world too - we deserve it, we've suffered ENOUGH God help us, and I mean that allegorically even humorously as I much as I really mean it for real, if not as an exclamation of panic. Do not panic, do not be afraid, the only thing to fear is.... blah blah blah the end.

NAM
aka Bob or Rob if you prefer.

Largely forgetting what I just wrote but just going ahead and clicking post WTH I felt pretty good while I was writing it - so whatever I (he) said.. points nowhere.

Be of good cheer! There is nothing to fear have a beer, eh?

edit on 3-1-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by eLPresidente
Will America fall like the Roman Empire did before such change occurs?

I hope so...

Is that really what you want, rioting in the streets.. the government in a crackdown, the states impoverished, the people oppressed with violence, chaos, anarchy?

Instead, how 'bout a quiet revolution where "we" just boil "them" like frogs in the collective waters and the "foam" of our rising civil conscious awareness, and PUSH on the fulcrum until the entire pyramid inverts in favor of the little guy, average American Joe who was abandoned by big time corporate and other "special" interests, I mean like isn't all the data already in? And if it's all up in the air, and "out of control", if nobody's really "at the wheel" then how much of a push could it take - and I'm not talking pushing against some force of evil and thus empowering it, like Alex Jones on a rant, no I'm talking about what we push for, by comparison, and in that crux finding the fulcrum of historical transformation, while also improving our own lives and those of others around us in the process ie: having fun, being creative, charting a course to something better at all levels, both as a bottom up, and, as a top-down evolutionary phenomenon of change and transformation, because the other pyramid when it inverted immediately sank into the abyss for the absurd and irrational position or "status quo" that it was, pulled down by it's own hubris, while the real America is reborn, based on what we think, and feel and create, at all levels.

It's simply a matter of coming to power, which like the ancient Hindu Brahmas originates in the heart as a first/last cause transforming every facet of civilized social thinking and conduct, and in so doing changing the world one person at a time, starting with ourselves.

For those wondering about a solution, I encourage you again to watch this video "An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

YouTube Link

Originally posted by vind21
The problem is the american citizen doesn't care.

As bad as things seem to be life is still to easy for most, and these chairs today are so comfortable.