Teen Charged in Fatal School Bus Shooting Can Attend School: Judge

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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hi all

Wow I cant believe this kid is even out on bond much less gonna be allowed to attend school. Iknow hes only 15 and accidents happen but a 13 year old girl is still dead. What the hell was he doing playing with a gun on the school bus anyway..

NO WAY HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND SCHOOL....... WTF?

www.nbcmiami.com...


The 15-year-old charged in the fatal shooting of a girl on a Homestead school bus will be allowed to attend school and go to church while he's out on bond, a judge ruled Wednesday.

Jordyn Howe will also be allowed to see his attorney but otherwise will have to stay at home, Judge Ellen Sue Venzer ruled during a hearing Wednesday that the teen and his family attended.

"You're not to be going to the movies, you're not hanging out, you go from home to school, you go from school to home," Venzer told the teen.




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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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Wasn't it between school and home that he had is "trouble" in the first place? If I were the judge, I think I'd at least order homeschooling for him.

Perhaps the judge should have ordered him to leave his gun at home, too. You have to be very specific with teenagers....

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:06 PM
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So he is going to a different school, but still, I'm with you. There's no way he should be allowed to go to any school. If they are that concerned with his education, they can make arrangements for him at home. But back to school like all is well ? No.

Me thinks that old "privilege" played a major role in this.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:09 PM
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Also, the Step Dad who obviously did not secure that weapon , should be held accountable as well. This is NOT "responsible" gun ownership at all.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:12 PM
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I would be pulling my kids right out of that school

Who the hell wants their kids going to school with someone who shot and killed another student on the damm school bus

POLITICAL MADDNESS



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:19 PM
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Im not surprised. Happens routinely in my town. Laws are NOT upheld.. state or fed level.. and prosecution is a joke.
You can be a POS and trash your town, then come to mine to do your armed robberies.. and not be prosecuted properly.. walking free. The American way in 2013.. for some. Its even easier when youre a football player and just HAPPEN to wake up one day and be involved in an armed robbery.. you can get off easy. Imagine that.
However... if you disregard the law and your probation, you can even get it modified to do whatever you want and not worry about being held accountable for violating probation..

www.bnd.com...

www.ksdk.com...



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:44 PM
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Perhaps if we stopped codling criminals for their infractions then the law abiding would not need to be punished.

The problem in our nation comes from lax enforcement not a lack of laws.

Laws we have plenty of. Strict enforcement not so much - everyone has rights in America, especially the criminals because they have their own advocates, the whole system works to get them a break for their particular brand of sob story.

Yet, the law abiding gun owner can't catch a break?



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 06:48 PM
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Well gee whiz and golly....

I sure hope he promised and pinky swore not to commit anymore cold blooded murders of his fellow students awhile attending classes. Even at another school, it seems to me...he's hardly a safe one to have in the next seat over.

So how is it a student can be expelled without much fanfare and little chances to appeal with a positive outcome for petty crap .... but murder just gets a harsh warning about doing nothing but ..going where you just killed someone? I mean, sure, he did it on a bus....but is THAT supposed to make the kids and faculty feel better? Heck, I would not only understand kids missing school over this, I'd understand FACULTY staying home too.

Some Judges need removed from the Bench. This is one of many recent bone headed moves to make the point in 10 foot neon letters, IMO.
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 12:18 AM
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Such a sad case and his eyes contain such sorrow and confusion. He needs prayers, for help, for Peace and Love to heal him, for God and Mercy to be with him, for guidance and forgiveness, and ammends, for his ability to be healed, and to escape any circumstances that may entrap him even, and for his healing to take place. And also for her family, for her healing and progression as well, for those affected by the loss of their daughter, friend, to be able to heal and grow in understanding of this world and also for the Spirit of Peace and Love to be with them and guide them each day.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 06:55 AM
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Forget the judge. Why didn't the school expel him?



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by Golf66
Perhaps if we stopped codling criminals for their infractions then the law abiding would not need to be punished.

The problem in our nation comes from lax enforcement not a lack of laws.

Laws we have plenty of. Strict enforcement not so much - everyone has rights in America, especially the criminals because they have their own advocates, the whole system works to get them a break for their particular brand of sob story.

Yet, the law abiding gun owner can't catch a break?


Correct. Jackass Obama pretends to care and be tough on gun violence, but under his time as president gun crimes prosecutions are down 27%.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:02 AM
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Let's not go nuts. If it was truly an accident he doesn't deserve to go to prison for life. I don't know what is a fair punishment, but what you are suggesting is extreme. He is still a kid and he made a huge mistake, had he taken his parents car for a foolish joy ride and accidentally hit and killed someone I doubt people would say he needs to go to prison for the majority of his life or be killed! Just because a gun was involved the extreme rhetoric starts. If anything his parents should be punished for not keeping their guns put up safely, and this kid should face charges, but don't take his life away because of an accident. People seem to think someone is an automatic sociopath when a gun is involved, but I bet this kid is having a hard time with this too.

To me this is more evidence that gun safety needs to be taught. WIth gun safety taught to all kids then this accident likely wouldn't have happened (if it is indeed an accident).
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by dc4lifeskater
If I were the dad of the girl this would be perfect so I can just figure out the time the bus lets him off so that I would be able to shoot him for killing my daughter.. Its no accidental shooting when a kid has a gun on a school bus. First he shouldn't have had it, second even if he did def should be at school or on the bus. He deserves life in prison and we wont have to worry about there being a next time.


Violence is not the answer.

What makes you any better than him if you did that? You killed my daughter so I'll kill you. It's not the answer and it's not the way things should be.

Human beings think that violence would solve the problem. It would not bring your daughter back and it won't make things any better. Taking his life is not the answer.

People must learn to forgive.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:08 AM
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Anyone know why it is that he shot the girl?

-I know that recently, there is much racial tension between african americans and hispanics in many parts of the US.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:18 AM
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Well they are saying it's an accident, and they are obviously treating him as if it was an accident, so I will say he didn't mean to shoot her.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:33 AM
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Well you pray to whatever God you want for his forgiveness and healing, and I will pray to the God I call justice that her father catches him on the way to school.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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dbl post
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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That's not justice. That's revenge. What if this kid was being bullied to the point that he was afraid for his life (like that other kid in florida that was being beaten up by a bully and stabbed him and the bully died) and the gun accidentally went off and killed the girl. Nothing is black and white.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Let's not go nuts. If it was truly an accident he doesn't deserve to go to prison for life. I don't know what is a fair punishment, but what you are suggesting is extreme. He is still a kid and he made a huge mistake, had he taken his parents car for a foolish joy ride and accidentally hit and killed someone I doubt people would say he needs to go to prison for the majority of his life or be killed! Just because a gun was involved the extreme rhetoric starts. If anything his parents should be punished for not keeping their guns put up safely, and this kid should face charges, but don't take his life away because of an accident. People seem to think someone is an automatic sociopath when a gun is involved, but I bet this kid is having a hard time with this too.

To me this is more evidence that gun safety needs to be taught. WIth gun safety taught to all kids then this accident likely wouldn't have happened (if it is indeed an accident).
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See that is where you are wrong, at least as far as I am concerned. Had he been out joy riding and acting in a negligent manner and ran her down I would still hope that her father got his hands on him. I'm not saying kill him, as that would place the father in line for a life sentence, but if it were my daughter I would gladly take a malicious wounding charge to make sure that his life was forever altered.

You can call it a mistake all you want, but this was no hunting accident. He had a gun on the bus, and not only that but was acting in a negligent manner with it. That action cost a girl her life. She did nothing to deserve her life to end, and her parents did nothing to deserve the life sentence that they now have to face.





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