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Students at High School Recite The Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic.

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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:08 PM
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Look at it this way.

Kids in choir and drama classes get to show what they can do and what they have learned in school plays and recitals.

Kids in science go to science fairs and kids in sports have their sporting events.

Why should we be surprised that these people in foreign language classes want to show off their abilities as well?

It was the students that requested this, not a mandate from a higher political power, and of all the bad things that they COULD be doing.....this is not one of them.

Let the kids have their little moment to show off what they have learned and I find it quit sad that they just want to do something different and everyone jumps on the "outrage bandwagon".




posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by teslahowitzer

Originally posted by GmoS719
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Why does it matter what language you pledge in?
This is ignorance at its best.

Just because you do not agree of a point does not constitute ignorance, that is arrogance, on your part, want a shot at your intelligence, i am not that shallow, say what the he** you want, I believe this should be standardized, melting pot or not. This mudding the waters has an agenda even if you choose not to see it. Is there nothing else they can "recite" in their studies? Maybe I am just too patriotic, But looks like a lot of "Americans" are blatantly cool with the destruction of our young culture, even if it is broadly based. I stand by my values.I fall for for the lack of...


It's ignorance to think that this is anything more than it is.
Our country has a great diversity. In language and culture.
Times change and it isn't right to lock the youth into one.
Let's be real, it's not like they are pledging to another country.
Now that I would be against.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Sphota
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Next they'll be translating the Bible into these heathen tongues. If it was written in English, it should stay in English!

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Sarcasm, I'm not an idiot....

I was raised JW, so, I never had to recite the pledge....I think it's moot. Arabic is not the language of any significant portion of the population of Afghanistan and not all Iraqis speak Arabic. Syrians, Egyptians and Libyans exist that are on "our side" (whatever that's even supposed to mean). I guess it'd be like going to war with Christians and being shocked by the pledge being said in Liturgical Latin.

People (Parents) will pick the oddest things to get frazzled over, the things that are least grounded in objective reality and based on empiricism.


why can't girls wear bikinis to school?....because it is not appropriate at school, on the beach? no problem....the point i'm trying to make is that it is the context, time, and place that something is done which makes something appropriate. this was done as a stunt, nothing more...the reaction recieved, toward the teacher and the school, could have been anticipated by anybody with a pulse.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:22 PM
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They did it in Spanish, no one said anything.
They did it in French, no one said anything.
They do it in Arabic, this country is going to hell.

Yeah, with that attitude, you're damn right.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:24 PM
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So, therefore, you are saying it's open season, anything goes, all is open to anything, there are no boundries, I just agree to disagree. We as a culture, need to have standards, english should be that standard on certain issues. When the standards are removed, culture and values become nonexistant. This to me shows a drop in the level of patriotism of our young driven by the anti american brainwashing that is the new education system. This seems to be working. What is next, what is the boundry? This is one of many things that form a downward trend is what was once a great culture with a common goal of becoming a great nation. Recite something else, leave our beseline as it is.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by teslahowitzer

Originally posted by GmoS719
reply to post by teslahowitzer
 


Why does it matter what language you pledge in?
This is ignorance at its best.

Just because you do not agree of a point does not constitute ignorance, that is arrogance, on your part, want a shot at your intelligence, i am not that shallow, say what the he** you want, I believe this should be standardized, melting pot or not. This mudding the waters has an agenda even if you choose not to see it. Is there nothing else they can "recite" in their studies? Maybe I am just too patriotic, But looks like a lot of "Americans" are blatantly cool with the destruction of our young culture, even if it is broadly based. I stand by my values.I fall for for the lack of...


It's ignorance to think that this is anything more than it is.
Our country has a great diversity. In language and culture.
Times change and it isn't right to lock the youth into one.
Let's be real, it's not like they are pledging to another country.
Now that I would be against.


really? did the teacher know if they said it correctly?....did they say "i almost pledge alligence" or "i will sometimes pledge alligence"? or "i will never pledge alligence"?
how about a critical thinking discussion on why, at this time, and place, it would NOT be appropriate.
edit on 30-1-2013 by jimmyx because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:28 PM
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No, but if you go there, shouldn't you be able to speak the language? If you were to move there and became a citizen, would you pledge allegiance to their flag in English? I do think people should be able to speak at least a bit of the language of whatever country they may be visiting, it's just polite, but to teach our kids to pledge in Arabic is pointless.
Or French or Spanish or any other. This is America, English is our language.
edit on 30-1-2013 by DAVID64 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by GmoS719

Originally posted by teslahowitzer

Originally posted by GmoS719
reply to post by teslahowitzer
 


Why does it matter what language you pledge in?
This is ignorance at its best.

Just because you do not agree of a point does not constitute ignorance, that is arrogance, on your part, want a shot at your intelligence, i am not that shallow, say what the he** you want, I believe this should be standardized, melting pot or not. This mudding the waters has an agenda even if you choose not to see it. Is there nothing else they can "recite" in their studies? Maybe I am just too patriotic, But looks like a lot of "Americans" are blatantly cool with the destruction of our young culture, even if it is broadly based. I stand by my values.I fall for for the lack of...


It's ignorance to think that this is anything more than it is.
Our country has a great diversity. In language and culture.
Times change and it isn't right to lock the youth into one.
Let's be real, it's not like they are pledging to another country.
Now that I would be against.


so, i guess it would be ok with you to discuss abortion, birth control, being an athiest?...because, you know, our country, culture are changing, and it's not like they would be preaching to actually do these things, right?



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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I love how the Pledge, something that has existed for only a little over 100 years and only been officially adopted for a little over 50, suddenly supersedes the Constitution. The people railing against this keep throwing around words patriotism while essentially telling these students they can't exercise their First Amendment right to free speech. No one was compelling these students to say the Pledge in any language. They chose to say it. As a result they can say it in whatever language they want. The hypocrisy of these reactionary "patriots" is always astounding. I wonder how many of them would be shocked to learn that the Pledge was written by a socialist.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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So, therefore, you are saying it's open season, anything goes, all is open to anything, there are no boundries,


I said nothing of the sorts. Given the context in which this issue has come about, why should we be concerned? This was not forced onto the students and was, in fact, their idea.



I just agree to disagree. We as a culture, need to have standards, english should be that standard on certain issues. When the standards are removed, culture and values become nonexistant.


So they said the POA in a foreign language.....what standards were stepped-on? Did they force every student to wear a wrap on their head and praise to Alla? No.



This to me shows a drop in the level of patriotism of our young driven by the anti american brainwashing that is the new education system.


It could be said that the POA itself is a brainwashing technique to instill fervent national patriotism into the youth. It's been done before....hell, the Nazi's were huge on this kind of stuff.



This is one of many things that form a downward trend is what was once a great culture with a common goal of becoming a great nation.


If you were really concerned you would be putting your energy into real issues that is causing the degradation of our country. Kids saying the POA in French or Arabic is a non-issue and to be honest.....stupid.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by DAVID64
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No, but if you go there, shouldn't you be able to speak the language? If you were to move there and became a citizen, would you pledge allegiance to their flag in English? I do think people should be able to speak at least a bit of the language of whatever country they may be visiting, it's just polite, but to teach our kids to pledge in Arabic is pointless.
Or French or Spanish or any other. This is America, English is our language.
edit on 30-1-2013 by DAVID64 because: (no reason given)


If I were in a non-English speaking country, I would do my best to learn their language. However, if I still praise their land in my old tongue, is the message less sincere?



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by T4NG0

Originally posted by abeverage
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You realize right we used to do a NAZI style salute to the flag not to long ago? Called the Bellamy salute it was oddly stopped after the USA entered WWII wonder why



en.wikipedia.org...


Whoa I didn't even know that! Thanks for posting this!


Hey no problem interesting things about even our History we don't seem to know.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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Let each student say it in the language that touches their heart. Shame on the people who are giving the school flak over this.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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I have NEVER agreed with one of your posts....until now. I feel dirty and ashamed....
Great post.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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The ignorance in this thread is ASTOUNDING.

People clearly didn't read the article or watch the video...just ignorant knee jerk reactions.

Claiming kids were forced to say the pledge in Arabic.

Claiming kids were forced to learn Arabic.

Claiming this is to brainwash kids.

Seriously...WTF people....go learn stuffs and reads words...ignorance is curable...please help yourself.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by groingrinder
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I have NEVER agreed with one of your posts....until now. I feel dirty and ashamed....
Great post.


I feel honored


Also, not a single one?


I'm sure we can find more to agree on. I'm not completely unreasonable.



posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 05:12 AM
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The day that English becomes the official language of the United States is the day everyone can get upset over this.

When i was in school i took German, we did all sorts of translations from English in to German, no one cared.

Are you guys upset because it Arabic? What if it was Chinese, would that be ok? What about french, or is that ok now that the "freedom fries" fad is long over?

If its ok to do for all other language except one, you are singling that language out. When you single one language out you are being racist plain and simple.

Think with your brain, not your knee-jerk emotions.

DC



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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While some people may see this as a good thing I say differently. Sure its good to embrace anothers culture but I feel theres a limit to what we can take from anothers way of life. So in this case reciting an American pledge of allegiance in a language other than English is wrong. You want to learn Arabic? fine but dont recite an American creation meant for Americans only in a foreign language.

edit on 7-2-2013 by Edgar806 because: (no reason given)





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