Real-izing that the past is an illusion is not about forgetting the past.

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by BlueMule

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Real-izing that the past is an illusion is not about forgetting the past.

Sounds like someone trying to justify their actions.

I got a quote for you too.

"American eyes, American eyes, view the world from American eyes...

Bury the past, rob us blind, and leave nothing behind."- from a song I can't remember its name?

People that want to forget the past are usually abusive. Orr the "abusees".

It's about transpersonal experiences which show the illusory (maya) nature of the ego, of time, of space, of duality, multiplicity.

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by BlueMule

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It's about transpersonal experiences which show the illusory (maya) nature of the ego, of time, of space, of duality, multiplicity.

You are all over the place with that. Anything specific?

BTW, you replies don't link in my reply box. I have to find them. Maybe like your avatar you are very "down low".

To see what I mean, think of spacetime as a loaf of bread. Einstein realized that, just as there are different ways to cut a loaf of bread into individual slices, there are different ways to cut spacetime into individual "now" slices. That is, because motion affects the passage of time, someone who is moving will have a different conception of what's happening right now, and so they'll cut the loaf into different now slices. Their slices will be at a different angle.

DAVID KAISER: That person who's moving will, will tilt the knife, will be carving out these slices at a different angle. They won't be parallel to my slices of time.

BRIAN GREENE: To get a feel for the bizarre effect this can have, imagine an alien, here, in a galaxy 10-billion light years from Earth, and way over there, on Earth, the guy at the gas station. Now, if the two are sitting still, not moving in relation to one other, their clocks tick off time at the same rate, and so they share the same now slices, which cut straight across the loaf. But watch what happens if the alien hops on his bike and rides directly away from Earth.

Since motion slows the passage time, their clocks will no longer tick off time at the same rate. And if their clocks no longer agree, their now slices will no longer agree either.

The alien's now slice cuts across the loaf differently. It's angled towards the past. Since the alien is biking at a leisurely pace, his slice is angled to the past by only a miniscule amount. But across such a vast distance, that tiny angle results in a huge difference in time. So what the alien would find on his angled now slice—he considers as happening right now, on Earth—no longer includes our friend at the gas station, or even 40 years earlier when our friend was a baby.

Amazingly, the alien's now slice has swept back through more than 200 years of Earth history and now includes events we consider part of the distant past, like Beethoven finishing his 5th Symphony: 1804 to 1808.

And if that's not strange enough, the direction you move makes a difference, too. Watch what happens when the alien turns around and bikes toward Earth. The alien's new "now slice" is angled to…toward the future, and so it includes events that won't happen on Earth for 200 years: perhaps our friend's great-great-great granddaughter teleporting from Paris to New York.

Once we know that your now can be what I consider the past, or your now can be what I consider the future, and your now is every bit as valid as my now, then we learn that the past must be real, the future must be real. They could be your now. That means past, present, future…all equally real; they all exist.

SEAN CARROLL: If you believe the laws of physics, there's just as much reality to the future and the past as there is to the present moment.

So does this mean things done in the past don't exist anymore?

Earlier I mentioned retro-causality.

Have Scientists Finally Discovered Evidence for Psychic Phenomena?

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by BlueMule

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fine. And you just go right on believing you can predict anything.

Originally posted by Astyanax
That a German should attempt to deny the reality of past event is spine-chilling.

I am not accusing you of anything but insensitiveness, but you really should know better.