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Law Professor on CBS Says ‘Let’s Give Up On the Constitution’

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posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 11:52 AM
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The following op-ed run on CBS’s 60 Minutes takes a backwards interpretation of the Constitution, perverting the document that enshrines and protects our civil rights by arguing that it allows people to control their own lives.



By de-legitimizing the argument to hold to the Constitution, this law professor is ushering in arbitrary law and a public opinion that could shift with the wind rather than uphold a principle, a key buffer set up by imperfect founders to try to stave off tyranny through a separation of power.


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Don't you love how all these so called "experts" of the Constitution seem to be the ones calling for the gutting of it?

And how can you take an Oath of office to said Constitution, and yet try to change it at every opportunity?

The scary part, is knowing how critical thinking has gone out the window, them trying to throw this idea out into the "public consciousness" to get people to accept what, ultimately, will lead to their very own demise.




posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:02 PM
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Umm NO very bad Idea indeed!!! who do you think will write this new constitution.. The people in charge now, and who is screwing everything up? The poeple in charge now..

It would end up being the contituion of the replublic states of american brought to you by pepsi, sponsored by bank of american, ect.

The constitiution is the only thing right now keeping us from being completely screwed over, and its hardly holding that up as it is.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:30 PM
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Times change.

Take Hammurabis code of of laws, groundbreaking and brilliant in its day but by todays standards basically just barbaric.

As technology and peoples values change so should laws and customs.

Blindly clinging to something because "its always been done that way" or because some magical mystique has been built up around it is just as bad and very similar to religious extremism.

Nothing is infallible, one day, it may not be today or tomorrow or even 20,50,100 years, the constitution will need to be replaced. Thinking otherwise is just putting your head in the sand.
This goes for all countries founding documents not just the US.
Look at the Magna Carta as another example, fantastic in its time but not really applicable for today.

Maybe all the experts mentioned by the OP are onto something and arent part of some big conspiracy to take away your freedoms, just a thought.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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So just wipe the slate clean? No backing whatsoever to even our current level of "freedom"? I think this sounds like an incredibly dangerous idea. This jackhole is being paid to promote this idea. If he's so sick and tired of personal liberties guaranteed by law, he should pack up his beard and move to North Korea.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Times change.

Take Hammurabis code of of laws, groundbreaking and brilliant in its day but by todays standards basically just barbaric.

As technology and peoples values change so should laws and customs.




And this is exactly why the Founding Fathers made it possible to amend the Constitution. The Bill of Rights is timeless in my opinion, so are the 10 Commandments and Jesus's golden rules. I am not even religious.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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"Know thy enemy and know thyself...." - Sun Tzu

MOTF!
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posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Times change.

Take Hammurabis code of of laws, groundbreaking and brilliant in its day but by todays standards basically just barbaric.

As technology and peoples values change so should laws and customs.

Blindly clinging to something because "its always been done that way" or because some magical mystique has been built up around it is just as bad and very similar to religious extremism.

Nothing is infallible, one day, it may not be today or tomorrow or even 20,50,100 years, the constitution will need to be replaced. Thinking otherwise is just putting your head in the sand.
This goes for all countries founding documents not just the US.
Look at the Magna Carta as another example, fantastic in its time but not really applicable for today.

Maybe all the experts mentioned by the OP are onto something and arent part of some big conspiracy to take away your freedoms, just a thought.



IF this had happened when we didn't see martial law happening in this country by every other name than martial law; if this didn't happen during a period of gun grabs, OR even during the process of the so-called "fiscal cliff" and banker bailouts, you MIGHT have a point.

But it isn't, is it? It's coming on the heels of all these things. That's why intelligent ppl are questioning where are these ideas coming from, and who is supporting/endorsing them.

Sounds like you don't see this as any kind of agenda at all.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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love sun-tzu and clausewitz.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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These so called professors of the Constitution study it so that they are better equipped to dismantle it piece by piece. Obama lectured on Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago. See the connections...

Dismantle the Second Amendment gun by gun crisis by crisis and soon the First amendment follows... Who's going to resist.

People like this amaze me... That document is old no need to follow it, how could Jefferson know what our country would be like in 2012?... Jefferson would be appalled by this Prof and those like him... I'm sure these folks feel the same way about that crusty, dusty, old Bible too...
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posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:52 PM
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I have a much better idea. Lets kick all the politicians/lobbyists/lawyers/media to the curb and start over using the Constitution to set up a new government.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:52 PM
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Seidman

Lolol

Im not even going to go there but i will say this


You have a coin
On one side is communism
On the other zionism

Yet
It is still the same coin

Wake up murkins and identify your enemy within



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:54 PM
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Sounds like you don't see this as any kind of agenda at all.


It was in the MSM so Im pretty confident there was an agenda, no idea what it was though.

Maybe this guy was a shill or maybe he wasnt but he only got airtime due to the fact he is pushing TPTBs agenda without knowing, maybe maybe maybe.

My point was simply at some stage in the future the constitution like every other man made document will be outdated and either replaced or so heavily changed that it wont be recognisable to what it is today.
It is not some heaven sent mandate that so many seem to hold it up to be



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 01:11 PM
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Anyone here ever played the early '90s role playing game, Cyberpunk2020?. I have and it it predicted some of the events that are apparent today, a fictional game that was influenced by the cyberpunk literary movement of the 1980s.

This quote from a wiki fan site summarizes the plot of the game: "Taking place in the second decade of the 21st century (2013 - 2020), after a wide-spread social-economical collapse and a period of martial law, the United States government gave a veritable carte blanche - even the elimination of anti-trust laws - to several large corporations in a desperate attempt at economic recovery. In this world, megacorporations control government and lives."

com275artoffilm.wikia.com...

This game even predicted China's interest in the South China Sea with oil under the Spratley Islands.

I'm not saying that this game is behind a conspiracy to warn us of the inevitable, that They will win, but it seems that the coarse was seen by fiction writers 20 years ago, all one has to know is the motive behind the powermongers, that they follow an objectivist philosophy and this is the endgame of that philosophy, corporate control, the creation of the Incorporated States of America. By the way, that was the name of the US in that fictional game...



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 01:21 PM
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My point was simply at some stage in the future the constitution like every other man made document will be outdated and either replaced or so heavily changed that it wont be recognisable to what it is today.


The Bible has been holding pretty steady since about 1445 BC... compliments of Moses...
carm.org...

Nothing wrong with having a foundation of core beliefs and principles eh? How about the Torah and The Koran, The Vedas, The Sutras of Buddhism etc etc?



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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Religious documents are a really, really terrible comparison to the US constitution. Primarily because they were forced upon millions of people, 'accept our ideas or die.'

If you want to start forcing your interpretation of the constitution at gunpoint...well...I think you're going to be on the losing side of history. The US constitution could use an update or two.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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It occurs to me that those who are so eager to scrap the Constitution wouldn't be nearly so keen on it if the existing Constitution were being followed and its laws enforced. The major problem, as it is, is that the Constitution has been undermined in the name of convenience and expediency far too many times by those who thought they "knew better."

And there's the root of the problem with the Constitution....



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:42 AM
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When "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" no longer applies to the most innocent in our country, it's citizens become hypocritical in demanding to keep it for themselves.

The God of most of our forefather's set out a choice between good and life and evil and death. Life can never, and will never, come from choosing evil no matter how much man redefines that chosen evil as good - it will still produce the effects of evil, death and destruction. Unfortunately, many will have to learn that truth the hard way. A population who extolls lying, thieving, coveting, violence, baby murder, greed, materialism, idolatry and the love of sin gets leaders who are the same. "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" are not the values and ideals of people who love evil and do these things.

Jesus left most of our forefathers with His peace. Tragically, that peace is being rejected by a population that rejects even teaching it's children the ten commandments. And yet, it scratches its head at why the products of such thinking now wish to see the removal of our Constitution. The sixties threw away Jesus for free love, sex, drugs, rock n roll and drug induced spirituality. Welcome to the culmination of that as those little flower children hold key positions everywhere. They rejected Him and therefore rejected truth and life.

We reap what we sow.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 01:45 AM
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what a retard....

I hope he gets his wish and we become a dictatorship where people advocating for dramatic and dangerous change to the country on whims and fads are shot and their families are charged for the bullet.

Jerk.

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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 04:49 AM
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I bet that guys constitution is the Communist Manifesto. These guys are all Progressives and Marxists who want to get rid of the Constitution



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 04:51 AM
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The Framers gave us the option of changing it into whatever we want.

Why are you upset about doing what they allow us to do?





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