Baltimore Buses recording conversations to investigate trouble.

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posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 11:39 AM
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A Maryland Transit Administration decision to record the conversations of bus drivers and passengers to investigate crimes, accidents and poor customer service has come under attack from privacy advocates and state lawmakers who say it may go too far.


I agree.

baltimoresun.com

With some exceptions, nowhere does it say in the Constitution that you have a right to privacy. But a person should be able to ride public transportation without feeling like they are under scrutiny of the FBI.

Nothign worse than to be made to feel like you are doing something wrong when you haven't.

From the article:


Raskin said bus patrons should have been consulted, and a clear policy on who has access to the recordings and how long they are kept should have been spelled out to the public before the program was initiated.


Exactly. To just say to make the patrons safer is a lame excuse. You need to specifically say what the information is being used for, who is using it, and specifically why.




posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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Apparently Baltimore isn't the only one:


Transit authorities in cities across the country are quietly installing microphone-enabled surveillance systems on public buses that would give them the ability to record and store private conversations, according to documents obtained by a news outlet.


wired.com



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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It's for their..I mean our safety.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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I thought it was illegal to record others without their knowledge, or at least one half of the party needed to know. Things seems to be escalating really quick in this country as far as loss of rights go. Whether or not the constitution states that we should be allowed privacy should not matter it is that little bit of privacy and freedom to think and say as we please that makes us fundamentally different from one another.

Pretty soon they'll have us all out in the streets turning on one another because someone said "this sucks". People are already having to apologize for private conversations they had in which they said a hateful deragotory word... who the heck hasnt? This is complete madness.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:08 PM
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Might as well get used to this kind of crap, there's no sign of it abating and no one is really actually standing up to fight it other than a few vandals. It's 'double plus ungood' for sure, but Americans have become complacent, doped up on flourides, excitotoxins, and 9 billion hours of television a week. Every camera and every microphone that goes up in this country leads us closer to that Brave New World we've all been warned was comming.

I truly wonder what the end game is here, what's the goal, why the need for such obtrusive and complete surveillance? What are they afraid of, who 'they' really is... by the time we dedicated few find the answers to those questions, it will be too late to stop it. This New World Order kinda sucks.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:32 PM
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we have no expectation to privacy when in public. that being said , we can use their own tools of control to break them. if you ride a bus or other public transportation that may be recording you , start saying red flag words , let them spend their time and resources sifting through all the recordings and investigating free speech.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:57 PM
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It depends on the state. States have different laws regarding recording conversations. It is illegal in Maryland. MTA gets around it by posting signs on the buses that they are getting recorded. So therefor it is being done with your permission.

But it is not fair to those who have no choice but to take city transit.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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If you read the article, the ACLU is fighting it.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
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If you read the article, the ACLU is fighting it.


Yeah, that's the problem though. They are fighting it through the 'Legal' System which enforces and compels this Orwellian crap, which I would equate to letting the wolves decide the sheep's comfort level.

Even if the ACLU had any teeth they wouldn't be able to run interference on the vast complex of Federal, State, and Local authorities who have already nefariously nessescitated themselves to it. Warrantless wiretapping, cellphone and social media monitoring, data mining, active camera and microphone recording capabilities, GPS locations, cameras and microphones, satellite surveillance, drones, thermal imaging helicopters, invasive searches at transportation hubs, even software dedicated to facial recognition and mood evaluations, drive-by xray trucks... even torture and indefinate detainment without trial.

It's not something that can be fought against within the Legal System, hell it's already here... policy as it were.
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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Sometimes, I think that people rely far too much on ACLU coming to the rescue. What would be more meaningful--the ACLU doing what was expected in the first place or a ton of letters from angry constituents and mass transit commuters? The latter probably but eh, the ACLU has got our backs, right? Maybe they'd be more effective if we had their backs...





 
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