Originally posted by gangstersoflove
reply to post by solomons path
Do you think that our finite logic / reasoning is able to perceive the ways of God? Must everything God does come within the realms of our logic. I
would think not! Is not God far above his creation in every way? I would think so.
That's laughable! You seriously think that the genome proves evolution. You've been listening to the wrong people.
"Science by it's very nature is open minded..." Um, no no no. Guess again. Science is the endeavor to explain the natural world to the exclusion of
God. God has NO part in science. What if God did create everything as the Bible says? How 'open minded' is your science when it wont even consider
God's involvement in creation?
So . . . what have you provide to counter anything said in this thread or my posts exactly? I'm sorry but two pages of scattershot incredulity
doesn't make for an argument. Continually, doing the equivilant, of sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming I don't believe you and your
evidence doesn't mean anything 'cuz what about my god . . . doesn't cast any doubts on the veracity of evolutionary theory (except in your own mind).
You are ignorant about the theory, it's mechanisms, and even science in general. But to respond to your direct questions to me.
1. I don't think about god . . . any god. So, if you can show me any evidence that a "supernatural" entity exists (any one, even if it is not your
god) then we can debate the "nature" of supernatural entities. Until then, it's fantasy at worst and a poorly formed hypothesis at best, either way .
. . not worth my time worry about something there is no evidence to worry about.
2. What people should I be listening to then? Please direct me to a peer reviewed paper in the field of genetics that states that the genome is
proof against evolution or doesn't support the theory. I would like something the I can verify through the veracity of their lab work, perferably by
an actual geneticist. Not some crack pot on youtube that doesn't know the difference between a telemere and a centromere. If you have someone like
that I'm all ears, otherwise your ignorance in matters of science is glaring and you should stick to matters of the supernatural where facts originate
through philosophy and not physical evidence.
3. Open minded to legimate physical evidence and phenomenon. If you want science, which doesn't deal in the supernatural, to include your god . . .
all you have to do is devise an experiment that shows physical evidence for a non-physical being and I'll be happy to include the possiblilty that
this non-physical being, as it relates to the physical world. As far as creation, which is not a part of evolutionary theory, there are hypotheses
but nothing that falls under the umbrella of theory. Creation (regardless) of creator is one . . . you want to include creation by your god into the
scientific discussions, simply show tangilbe physical for the supernaturals involvment in creation and then conduct an experiment to falsify this
involvment and if you can't . . . no science for you, stick to metaphysical philosophy. Ask yourself, which institution is constanly seeking to
expand and find new knowledge and facts about the universe and which one has stood pat on their beliefs through rugged dogma, inquisition, and
Really . . . all of your responses are based on incredulity and extreme emotional bias. You wouldn't know the truth about science, it's methods,
findings, or theories if they were being thrown in your face . . . 'cuz they are. I'll be happy to debate/converse on the these subjects with you if
you actually want to talk about evidence or concepts . . . but, if that was your concern you would have actually took the time to read a book or take
a class on the subject.
Good luck on your crusade, I hope your god rewards you with for all your hard work against the evilness of the physical universe. I'm sure he
appreciates you taking care of these little matters, he seems pretty busy with all he has on his plate. Hell, if it wasn't for people like you and
Ham and Hovind, earth would think him an absentee landlord. Well, let me know if you have any other questions, I'm done administering medicine to the
edit on 1/30/13 by solomons path because: (no reason given)