Originally posted by ManFromEurope
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I'll address the points they brought up first, and then I will address your position.
1)It's not only the armed 'victim' that needs to be taken into consideration. People with CCW's do not always use their weapons. However, I would
think it far more likely that you could diffuse a situation such as a robbery on the street simply by showing you are armed and willing to use force
to protect yourself.
If you think that civilians being armed won't help make places safer, then I would take a look around Youtube for some clips of gas station, jewelry
store, etc robberies caught on camera where the victim did indeed have a firearm close by.
2)This is not a very well done portrayal of criminals or the mental health factors involved.
I'm not going to go over this in detail, as many subsequent threads could be made on this topic.
However, this does not fit with these characters as they are super villians and have plans within plans.
These are not the equivalent of your every day mugger, as the first panel's original story of Bruce's parents being murdered, is actually far more
likely a situation than someone dressed in a green suit with question marks on it asking you a riddle and if you don't answer right your shoes will
explode or something.
On another subject, if Bruce's parents had not died, he would not have become Batman, and the Joker never would have been who he was. So even
portraying this character after already establishing the life changing event of our hero never happened is some short sighted judgement of this issue
coming through quite clearly.
3)Firstly, normal people don't 'hunt' bats. Leave that to the rednecks (no offense). Secondly, actually it does.
It does more than just imply we have that right.
It implies that an armed populace help keep not only the nation safe, but each other safe.
Jefferson said here, Link
, 'We hold these
truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these
are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from
the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to
abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem
most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for
their future security.'
What he means by this is that one should try through any means possible to address any grievances one has with his government peaceably, that the
right to rebel is your last resort when all else has failed.
Just as many people who have firearms do not purchase them to kill or even shoot people. They purchase them for protection, and pray they should never
have to use them for that reason.