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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
He said He was the Great I AM. There is no greater claim to being God in the Hebrew culture.
That's why they wanted Him murdered.
Originally posted by Texture
It will be a fine day when everyone accepts everyone else...
"The Case for the Real Jesus", Lee Strobel. You can get a paperback on amazon for less than 5$ I think.
Let me say this: the works of Lee Strobel are one of the things that crystallized my atheism. As a Christian, as an argument for Jesus/Christianity/theism, I think he has absolutely no credibility; as a person, I think he has absolutely no scruples. Here’s my case:
Please understand that I say this because I think Christians should put their best arguments forward. I think it’s unfair, for example, to tar all Christians with having to defend Fred Phelps, and I bristle when atheists suggest that there’s no difference between Phelps and any other Christian. Of course there is.
So let me be clear: I do not think Christianity is false because Strobel is a liar. I do, however, think that Christians should be aware of the fact that Strobel is a liar, and I think that Christians should not commend his books to seekers.
Now, where’s my proof? Bear with me — this will take a while.
You love to read, and previously you mentioned that you preferred the work of scholars, so might I suggest:
"The Case for the Real Jesus", Lee Strobel.
Review of Lee Strobel The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1998.
Lee Strobel, an ex-investigative reporter for the Chicago Tribune who describes himself as a "former spiritual skeptic," is a teaching pastor at Willow Creek Community Church. (Willow Creek is a mega-church with more than 30,000 members and was the site of a very high profile debate--moderated by Strobel--on "Atheism vs. Christianity: Where Does the Evidence Point?" between William Lane Craig and Frank Zindler.) Using his skills as a former legal affairs journalist, Strobel set out to "retrace and expand upon the spiritual journey ... [he] took for nearly two years." The Case for Christ is a summary of Strobel's interviews with thirteen leading Evangelical apologists, including Craig Blomberg, Bruze Metzger, Edwin Yamauchi, Ben Witherington III, and William Lane Craig.
In light of Strobel's frequent reminders that he used to be a hard-nosed, skeptical journalist, I skimmed the table of contents and index to see which critics of Christianity he interviewed. In so doing, I discovered [a glaring deficiency in Strobel's journalism: Strobel did not interview any critics of Christian apologetics, even though he attacks such individuals in his book
Originally posted by LipstickMystic
Jesus was a maverick; he didn't follow anyone and didn't adhere to any faith.
He was able to move in the world of the Jews with respect for their traditions, but with absolute clarity that they, unbeknownst to them, worshipped a psychopathic archonic pretender claiming to be a "god." the same being known as Marduk by the Sumerians, as Ra in Egyptian times, as the feathered serpent god in the early Americas. Same being, same energy, part of a corrupt family of negative beings who can move in and out of this dimension with their technology.
The Gnostic Christians, the first students of Jesus, tried to keep his understandings alive but they were killed off and driven underground.
Jesus intuitively derived his own direct understanding of Great Spirit, without needing an intermediary. Although he obviously studied and was aware of many religious traditions that preceded him, through his own insights he quickly saw that they all went off track, guiding people to giving energy to various descended masters, archonic beings, and other psychotic pretenders lurking in the lower astral.
He taught some students at an advanced level and also taught many hundreds more at a more basic, simplistic level, but his entire teaching boiled down to:
Access genuine feelings of altruistic love on a regular basis
Learn how to use this energy to send healing to others and to the Earth
And keep this energy alive at all times in your heart, both to advance your OWN evolution and to help lay out a path that others who are similarly motivated might follow in the years to come
He was a trailblazer, a maverick an individualist, and a Gnostic -- one who perceives things through direct sensing, direct knowing, not through being spoonfed anybody else's religious "truths."
But he also had great compassion and understanding for those using other tools, other faiths, and other philosophies to find a way to be good and kind in this world; so he was very gentle with them and didn't criticize their own spiritual life.
“I do not accept praise from men, but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him." John 5:41-43