Originally posted by canucks555
I still don't see a mothership. I would like to participate in the thread more but cannot as I don't see the mothership.
Not trying to be a sarcastic prude. But I cant see the mothership and op wont answer back..
Originally posted by JimOberg
Thanks for the kind words.
The scary thing I've come to realize is that the MORE familiar a person is with a certain category of visual phenomenon, the more likely they are to misinterpret other things they see to fit their experience.
Our brain seems to work from partial visual fraghments that cue up existing 'packages' of familiar objects, often -- to save time, and maybe avoid becoming saber-tooth-tiger-poop, 'filling in' a visual impression as quickly as possible, and in the most immediately dangerous form.
So in my case, I might see a high altitutde contrail at an unusual angle, and 'see' an ascent plume. This really happened a little more than a year ago out in LA when a CBS News traffic copter got that 'secret SLBM launch' video that was a nine days wonder until it was matched to a scheduled cargo aircraft overflight.
Everybody here contributes their own experience base, and their own requirement for answers, not knee-jerk instincts. The questions I've gotten, and the sincere and reasonable misunderstandings about spaceflight i've encountered, have been awesome contributions to my own gradual realization of how each of our own visual experiences need to be pooled, and overlaid. And it's a reminder to me that my own head is full of similar silly notions about phenomena you all are intimately familiar with -- and generously share.
The bigger issue of rockets and space events shaping Soviet/russian UFO experiences is an awesome story, too, that I had the immense pleasure of sleuthing out over the last quarter century. There are a lot of detailed case studies and overviews of my results on my home page.
This one video is just one example -- EACH view of each launch is a small data point in public reaction to them, and their cultural impact.
Whatever is behind the overall phenomenon, it's provided amazing insights into many aspects of culture, perception, and folklore. To me, it's really worth digging into, because it is NOT 'all nonsense' at all. Even if it may be 'mostly'. But then, isn't everything else in life, too?
Originally posted by Izak4K
Something fell out of the sky, nothing extraordinary.
Here is identical video:
Ooooh this is good. So where did the "Rocket" go to at the end of the video?
Wouldn't it continue to ascend or explode if that were the case?
Shouldn't you continue to see propulsion?
Originally posted by JayinAR
Everybody remember the Norway Spiral? That was a rocket launch. It also "persisted" for quite awhile in the sky. It is also, still to this day, the coolest damned thing I have ever seen.
Originally posted by PollyPeptide
I'm not convinced that this is a rocket launch. Normally when a rocket is launched, the exhaust trail leads from the ground, to the sky. This doesn't seem to happen here. The exhaust plume begins way up above the ground. And it's illuminated. Normally, the exhaust doesn't give off light. Sure the light could be reflecting from the source, but the fact remains, the exhaust trail doesn't go to the ground. If this is a rocket, then they would have had to launch it from mid air...
Originally posted by messar
I'm no expert but it seems like a rocket launch gone wrong to me.
Originally posted by JrDavis
reply to post by JimOberg
So you're saying that a rocket was launched from the ground.Went up along the horizon, Failed.
I have no idea, because none of us have ANY idea of the location [aside from 'Russia'], date, time, and direction of line-of-sight of the apparition. And THAT is because Waring and the other nincompoops that clutter the internet with these sequences refuse to provide those basic data. And THAT is done because you and so many others in their target audience ALLOW them to get away with it.
Then diversion doors were opened to remove solids thus creating the spiral that we see above the solids that are illuminating from the suns reflection?
So someone was watching and saw that it was failing and opened diversion doors after it failed going up? To release the rest of the solids?
Why would they do that if it failed due to loss of solids? Wouldn't the solids have already been released?
Originally posted by JrDavis
Ooooh this is good. So where did the "Rocket" go to at the end of the video? Wouldn't it continue to ascend or explode if that were the case? Shouldn't you continue to see propulsion?
Originally posted by Andromerius
Originally posted by foodstamp
Originally posted by EartOccupant
OK Missile launch...
But why does the smoke trail stays enlightened? Even when bended and for minutes..?
My first taught would be the rocket engine still producing enough light downwards to enlighten the trail..
But minutes long?
Strange stuff.edit on 28-1-2013 by EartOccupant because: spelling
Perhaps the propellant used is plasma like? Maybe that was the real test. Not the rocket, but instead, the propellant.
It's not a far stretch to think that some kind of propellant they used is either super heated and/or reflecting itself off of the sun that high in the air. There are countless kinds of gases plasmas and other propellants that could be reflecting the light of the sun.
That is just speculation for this does not look anything like a rocket launch or it's abort procedure. Rockets reach orbit or travel thousands of miles in a minute or two, not like this for several minutes. They do not leave a glow behind. Whatever this is, and i am leaning towards a natural phenomenon this is NOT a rocket.