Lightning Guns - Patent Published 2013-01-17

a reply to: InTheKnow123
Ok. Wikipedia:

Under United States law, a patent is a right granted to the inventor of a (1) process, machine, article of manufacture, or composition of matter, (2) that is new, useful, and non-obvious. A patent is the right to exclude others from using a new technology. Specifically, it is the right to exclude others from making, using, selling, offering for sale, importing, inducing others to infringe, and/or offering a product specially adapted for practice of the patent

en.m.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Phage

You are catching on! My point was the USPTO will not grant a patent u less it "accurately describes well enough for others skilled in the art or field to duplicate it"

a reply to: InTheKnow123

You are catching on! My point was the USPTO will not grant a patent u less it "accurately describes well enough for others skilled in the art or field to duplicate it"

Oh, I thought you were still on about the purpose of a patent being so others could duplicate it. That is not the purpose. Now you're back to claiming that something has to work to receive a patent.

Now, can you show where it has to be shown that an invention works before it can receive a patent?
www.uspto.gov...

Look! A generator with no moving parts! A patent for it, so it must be real!
www.freepatentsonline.com...
If it works, where are they?

a reply to: Phage

Ah that's not the language found in the patent at hand as well as USPTO Guidlines so apparently you've a got s lot to learn.

a reply to: gangdumstyle

Googled the Inventor and found this:

www.linkedin.com...

a reply to: InTheKnow123

Ah that's not the language found in the patent at hand

That is exactly the language in the patent. Does it work? It seems it would be a game changer if it does. But it doesn't. And it has a patent.

a reply to: InTheKnow123

Googled the Inventor and found this:

His personal LinkedIn page? OK.
Where's the lightning gun patent?
What are "genesis type" technologies?

a reply to: Phage

lol you have absolutely no knowledge of wether it does or doesn't work. I have knowledge that Schulte's EMP patent is the basis of both the USA's Missile Defense System under its non-classified guise during peacetime use by Boeing called the "Space Fence" as well as Israel's "Iron Dome". Google "Schulte Missile Defense". I just did and the Israel Iron Dome came up. President George W. Bush during his tenure started employing Schulte's breakthrough technique in Europe by installing two old school high powered radar dishes one in Poland one in Czechoslovakia. These huge old school high powered radar transmitters aren't needed in today's modern arsenal and Putin knew that he still is convinced it's some sort of weapon.

a reply to: InTheKnow123

I have knowledge that Schulte's EMP patent is the basis of both the USA's Missile Defense System under its non-classified guise during peacetime use by Boeing called the "Space Fence" as well as Israel's "Iron Dome".

"I have knowledge."
Does your knowledge tell you that the Space Fence has not been deployed and when it is it will be a radar system for tracking objects in space?
www.lockheedmartin.com...

Google "Schulte Missile Defense". I just did and the Israel Iron Dome came up.

Yes. But nothing about David Schulte, just Paul.

a reply to: Phage

It was deployed years ago. Many F16's for have example have "Lightning Spheres" on them emitting the HPM Schulte describes linked to other missile defense platforms via the LINK-16 secure target acquisition system.

a reply to: Phage

Paul Schulte DOES NOT appear in the article which I refer to. The name Schulte is nowhere to be found making it odd that article comes up on a search. When reading this article recall that no country has been able to successfully hit a missile with a missile. That would be akin hitting a bullet with a bullet. USA has failed repeatedly at this. That's not was really going on, as alluded, read closely:

www.inss.org.il...

originally posted by: InTheKnow123
a reply to: Seagle

This application by Schulte was officially granted a patent in 2014. It appears that all claims Schulte asked for were granted by USPTO. What I find odd, is that this application was mysteriously held up for over 10 years by USPTO. Filing date was in 2004.

Not that mysterious that it was held up for a decade...perhaps the US government / DARPA needed time to develop their own version and get out of paying the inventor his dues?

Even with a patent basically describing the concept, the design, and the principles of operation, it still takes significant development time to fine tune a weapons system that will be optimal and as reliable and practical for the battlefield arsenal.

The Government (probably all modern governments) can order a hold on any patent if it is deemed to be of defence significance or a 'National security issue'. IOW, the military can bury it and develop their own versions without paying a cent to the originator, although screwing the inventor out of dues is, i believe a rare thing..they usually pay off the inventors. Maybe the inventor got too mouthy / demanding and rubbed someone with clout up the wrong way and they basically diddled him.

a reply to: InTheKnow123

The Patriot missile system managed to hit a fair few SCUD missile during Iraq 1....

a reply to: MysterX

Yea and doesn't iron dome use Gatling guns to shoot down rockets? I've seen it in action in videos and lighting was curiously absent.

a reply to: mindseye1609
Russia apparently now has a similar system

m.in.rbth.com...

originally posted by: Phage
I don't know the requirements of becoming a patent examiner, but like most bureaucratic positions, they probably are not very restrictive.

In practice, the patent examiners tend to have advanced degrees, including doctorates, in related subjects. They would not be as expert as, for example, a research scientist trained in the very specific subfield as might review a peer-reviewed article for a major journal.

You'll get biochemistry PhD's as examiners for pharmaceutical applications for example.

I know a former plasma physicist working in the EU patent office.

a reply to: Phage

I don't believe that you need to prove that something works (as in you can patent a pharmaceutical composition of matter that you hope is clinically significant in disease, but don't have to prove it), but you do need to disclose the preferred embodiment and the description must be concrete enough for somebody to be able to reproduce it. That is the purpose of patent disclosure. In particular, you can't hide a key step.


By the way, I read the patent about the motionless electromagnetic generator. (Yeah, Bearden)

On page 11, they state that the energy source is the stored magnetization in the permanent magnets, not magic fairy quarks.

a reply to: Phage
Ummm... Lockheed, all 5 branches of the U.S. military and the militaries of the double digit number of F35 partners would all beg to differ phage...

Since that is one of the long standing capabilities Lockheed has been openly talking about the F35 having for a decade. It's actually THE key feature the F35 is depending on to make the much smaller fleets of aircraft to even come close to adequately replacing everything it has to replace. Even before the cost spiral really got going Lockheed was actively talking about how an F-35 equipped force would be able to launch much smaller numbers of aircraft in a strike package against even a near peer equipment quality and mostly intact air defense network. Terms like self escorting flew fast and thick. Not only is an all F-35 strike package supposed to do it's own SEAD/DEAD, it is also supposed to function as it's own wild weasels and self provide it's own AEW support.

Personally, I have no love for F35 and pray daily that the right people will stop this insanity before one program manages to compromise the national security of multiple nations possibly irreparably. But it's radar will function like an aimed EMP, and provide electronic warfare capabilities, all while still doing it's radarly duty.

a reply to: Phage
Ummm... Lockheed, all 5 branches of the U.S. military and the militaries of the double digit number of F35 partners would all beg to differ phage...

Since that is one of the long standing capabilities Lockheed has been openly talking about the F35 having for a decade. It's actually THE key feature the F35 is depending on to make the much smaller fleets of aircraft to even come close to adequately replacing everything it has to replace. Even before the cost spiral really got going Lockheed was actively talking about how an F-35 equipped force would be able to launch much smaller numbers of aircraft in a strike package against even a near peer equipment quality and mostly intact air defense network. Terms like self escorting flew fast and thick. Not only is an all F-35 strike package supposed to do it's own SEAD/DEAD, it is also supposed to function as it's own wild weasels and self provide it's own AEW support.

Personally, I have no love for F35 and pray daily that the right people will stop this insanity before one program manages to compromise the national security of multiple nations possibly irreparably. But it's radar will function like an aimed EMP, and provide electronic warfare capabilities, all while still doing it's radarly duty.

a reply to: MysterX

Now that David J. Schulte holds this exclusive EMP patent, he is squarely on the side of both U.S. patent law and Federal Regulations while the DOD & entire military & its contractors are on now on the wrong side of the law by illegally using what is now Schulte's private property (patents). Schulte was essentially awarded a 20 year license by the Federal Govt to extract monies as well as criminally prosecute anyone utilizing or profiting in any way from his EMP patented claims. There are a lot of people that could go to jail now if Schulte chooses to push it. Federal Courts uphold Federal Laws. Utilizing any info that is patent pending or subject matter in an unsolicited proposal can land you a free stay in a Federal Penitentiary.