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Originally posted by randomname
The system is flawed, what if you're just a good illegal immigrant who just wants a better life, doesn't bother anyone and works hard for everything he gots.
Isn't that what you want in your country, Shouldn't you be "rewarding" that. Make his life a little easier, so he can enjoy what the country has to offer.
Originally posted by okiecowboy
I see several posters talking about immigration reform. What is there to reform? The system is already set up for people to come here legally. So why must we reform anything...if they wanted to be legal they could have been just like anyone else..
How is bypassing the system going to make them better citizens? They are criminals why give them anything but a bus ride out of the country? This is a nation of laws, when you break those laws..you lose your status as decent law abiding citizens, our prisons are full of criminals...they lost the rights to own guns, vote, etc...such is the cost of a crime..
Originally posted by RalagaNarHallas
reply to post by muse7
because they keep coming here for the free hand out as in most of their countries(mexico for example) are war torn hellholes,what were getting is the rats jumping the ship because they think its gonna sink(their home country) so they come here and ignore the problems of their country and don't try to fix it,that and our general soft hand on illegal immigration(compared to 80%ish of the world) hell they sure get treated better and harassed less then the legal immigrants that go through the process where the illegals just seem to get "line cuts" why their legal counterparts wait their turn
Originally posted by jhn7537
So today when I was watching the local news here in Chicago a story popped up about the Governor signing a bill allowing illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses... Now wait... They're illegal immigrants and you're giving them the right to drive here legally? Anyone see a problem with this? Oh yea, thats right, that's just our corrupt govt. playing right into the illegal minorities of this state to keep that true blue going strong...
Gov. Pat Quinn signed a bill into law Sunday allowing illegal immigrants to get special driver's licenses, but it will be at least another 10 months before they'll start being issued.
The Illinois secretary of state's office estimates it'll need that much time to finalize rules and train employees about who qualifies and what paperwork can be accepted.
The lag time did little to dampen the mood of hundreds who braved icy weather to watch the ceremonial bill signing on Chicago's Southwest Side. The fanfare at Instituto del Progreso Latino included performances by a mariachi band and a roster of speakers 15 dignitaries deep. Supporters said the measure will make it easier for undocumented immigrants to get insurance.
"This bill is not just about driver's licenses, it's about equality for all," said sponsoring Rep. Edward Acevedo, D-Chicago.
What bothers me is that Edward Acevedo (quoted above) states that this is not about drivers license but about equality??? Since when is not being a citizen and not having to go through the proper channels to obtain citizenship an equality issue.
Honestly, I'm shocked that I continue to live in this god awful state named Illinois. It's beyond corrupted and they seem to want to make life easier for illegal immigrants... I love how the Gov. signs this bill on a Sunday, who signs bills on a Sunday? To a certain degree I feel that my civil rights our being violated. Illegals are driving on roads and streets paid with my tax money. I say, Let's sue the state for helping people break federal law. WTF! Shouldn't ICE be called when one of these illegals goes for a drivers license? What's the point of ICE then if they dont do something about this...
I know many will probably hate me for this thread and will reply with "we all came here illegal unless your native american" or some crap like that...
Sourceedit on 27-1-2013 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LuckyLucian
reply to post by jhn7537
The third quote you have there is the the reason for this and I wish it happened about 6 years ago. Illegal immigrants drive. They don't have insurance. In September of '06 I was hit in the passenger side while driving down Harlem in Orland Park. They were at fault, but I paid. And my insurance went up. They were uninsured because they had no license... because they were an illegal immigrant.
Say what you will about them being an illegal immigrant, but doing this potentially has numerous benefits. Among them properly insuring drivers and saving the insured from months and months of stupid insurance company BS.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by randomname
The system is flawed, what if you're just a good illegal immigrant who just wants a better life, doesn't bother anyone and works hard for everything he gots.
Isn't that what you want in your country, Shouldn't you be "rewarding" that. Make his life a little easier, so he can enjoy what the country has to offer.
No. Because there are 1,000 other people who want the same thing and are waiting to come here legally. If he wants to enjoy what this country has to offer he can get in line. Everyone at the grocery store wants food. Do you think it's ok for some people to just cut the entire line because they want to get home faster?
Originally posted by WaterBottle
The concept of borders and countries are nothing but statism.
legalized illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt. About three million illegal immigrants were granted legal status.
Originally posted by resoe26
Originally posted by WaterBottle
The concept of borders and countries are nothing but statism.
Exactly. Yet people feel they have RIGHTS to say who can enter and stay. c'mon... seriously, this is all of our land.
The idea of OWNING a peice of land is man made. Nothing more.
How can they show their ID and where they live to prove who they are? Only in America pmsl
Originally posted by WaterBottle
Originally posted by resoe26
Originally posted by WaterBottle
The concept of borders and countries are nothing but statism.
Exactly. Yet people feel they have RIGHTS to say who can enter and stay. c'mon... seriously, this is all of our land.
The idea of OWNING a peice of land is man made. Nothing more.
And it's funny the right wing is always going on about big government and statism yet worship the invisible borders set by the state.
Originally posted by 200Plus
reply to post by ANOK
I would stay in my country and make it a place worth living in. I wouldn't move to another country and expect to be catered too.
I just think it's odd that you people think that people that have been criminals for 2-20 years, are suddenly going to be rushing out to be legal and spend money.