Jesus said, "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" meaning that the Father (God) and Jesus are the same.

All of these different names like Elohim and Yahweh are different names given to God, Himself.

Names of God, or Holy Names, describe a form of addressing God present in liturgy or prayer of various world religions.[1] Prayer involving the Holy Name or the Name of God has become a part of both Western and Eastern spiritual practices. A number of traditions have lists of many names of God, many of which enumerate the various qualities of the Supreme Being.

The English word "God" is used by multiple religions as a noun or name to refer to different deities.

Ancient cognate equivalents for the word "God" include proto-Semitic el, Hebrew elohim (God or/of gods), Arabic 'ilah (a or the God), and Biblical Aramaic 'Elaha (God). The personal or proper name for God in many of these languages may either be distinguished from such attributes, or homonymic. For example, in Judaism the Holy Name is sometimes related to the ancient Hebrew ehyeh (I will be). In Hinduism the term Brahman or Parabrahman is often used or it is also symbolized by the word Om (pronounced 'Oum'), while, in other cases, the proper name for a deity is given special significance as a true name of God or incorporated from earlier beliefs, as in the case of the Native American appellation Gitche Manitou.

Correlation between various theories and interpretation of the Name of God, used to signify a monotheistic or ultimate Supreme Being from which all other divine attributes derive, has been a subject of ecumenical discourse between Eastern and Western scholars for over two centuries. In Christian theology the word must be a personal and a proper name of God; hence it cannot be dismissed as mere metaphor. On the other hand, the names of God in a different tradition are sometimes referred to by symbols. The question whether divine names used by different religions are equivalent has been raised and analyzed. See also Taboos below.

Exchange of names held sacred between different religious traditions is typically limited. Other elements of religious practice may be shared, especially when communities of different faiths are living in close proximity (for example, the use of Om and Gayatri within the Indian Christian community) but usage of the names themselves mostly remain within the domain of a particular religion, or even may help define one's religious belief according to practice, as in the case of the recitation of names of God (such as the japa). The Divine Names, the classic treatise by Pseudo-Dionysius, defines the scope of traditional understandings in Western traditions such as Hellenic, Christian, Jewish and Islamic theology on the nature and significance of the names of God. Further historical lists such as The 72 Names of the Lord show parallels in the history and interpretation of the Name of God amongst Kabbalah, Christianity, and Hebrew scholarship in various parts of the Mediterranean world.

One definition of the Name of God was given by Elisha Mulford as "that name which passes into the common forms of thought". The author states that in its derivation, it may have an ethical significance.[10] Other writers suggest that the "name of God represents the nature of God". The attitude as to the transmission of the Name in many cultures was surrounded by secrecy. In Judaism, the pronunciation of the Name of God has always been guarded with great care. It is believed that, in ancient times, the sages communicated the pronunciation only once every seven years; this system was challenged by more recent movements.

ccording to the Bible, the name of God was used during the lifetime of Adam and Eve, but by the time Moses was born, the scriptures imply that none of mankind still knew the name. In the Book of Exodus, God commands Moses to tell the people that 'I AM' sent him, and this is revered as one of the most important names of God according to Mosaic tradition.

Then Moses said to God, "If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' what shall I say to them?" God said to Moses, "I AM who I AM." And he said, "Say this to the people of Israel, YHWH (possibly "the One who is, was and will be"(and a 3rd person form of "I Am"i.e. "the One Who (Eternally) Is")) has sent me to you.'" God also said to Moses, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'I Am, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you': this is my name for ever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations.

You are basing this off rules of the language you speak. It is a very interesting thread, but how do you come to the conclusions they follow the same rules of verbs and nouns and such in their native tongue? Not bashing. Just truly curious.

Unless you have a credited translator your getting your info from.

Originally posted by arpgme


Jesus is Lucifer, I agree. In Revelations 22, Jesus calls himself "The Morning Star - Lucifer". They edited out the word "Lucifer" but they left the name "The Morning Star" in which is still an alternative name for "Lucifer".

Jesus is not Lucifer. Jesus in the Morning Star and Lucifer is the son of the Morning Star. Jesus created Lucifer.

Colossians 1:16

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Yahweh is darkness, that is why he says he creates light and chaos (disruption of light - by darkness). The rebellious spirit of Lucifer may have in fact been Jesus!

No, Lucifer is Satan. Yahweh is Jesus.

In The New Testament , the teaching was that "God IS Light" and "God IS Love", but the old testament says god is "Jealous, Wrathful, Angry" and that he was in "darkness" and he began to "create" light.

Yahweh wasn't IN darkness. Yahweh is light, but created darkness. The only thing that was IN darkness before Yahweh said, "Let there be light", was the earth before it was formed.

Just like God created light and dark, he created man in his own image. You saw the wrathful side of him in the Old Testament and the peaceful and loving side of him in the New Testament.

But Both, Yahweh (of darkness) and Jesus (the one called "the light"), are they "THE" creator god of heaven and Earth which was labelled as "The mighty one (Elohim)"?

Take out "(of darkness)" and you have it right. Elohim is both singular and plural, just like God.

1 John 5:7

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father (God/Yahweh), the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Yahweh and Jesus BOTH believe in original sin, even though THE creator in Genesis 1 said that ALL fruit bearing trees were for man to eat. They are BOTH contradicting the "Heaven and Earth"'s Creator's words.

Go back and read Genesis 1 & 2 again. Genesis 1 is an account of everything that was created. Genesis 2 is a more detailed account of that creation.

As for your original post stating that there was a contradiction between animals being "brought forth" by water and then Genesis 2 stating that they were made from the ground...

2 Peter 3:5

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

Great thread.

I am excited to see more breakdowns of the biblical passages.

So Yawheh is a like the manager, Jesus was the HR department, and EL was the company creator and owner. Lucifer/Satan the secret shopper?