Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Yet, the Masons thrown on the robe of the leader and try to run a global cabal. They thrown on the hat of a general, after taking off the hat of a banker, to both fund and run wars in the name of world government and the "Great Work".

What are their names?

Are the world leaders the same as Crowley--masons, yet following along to their own destruction? How can you help me see the difference between the average Mason and the ones funding and causing war for profit; building a NWO; leaving their watermark of symbols on all government and state buildings?

Maybe by you first providing me the names of these people.

Give me an honest answer. Are the Masons and the NWO Builders the same? If yes, do you agree with the ends and means? If no, why do they use YOUR symbols?

I do not believe in the group you are asking about.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Yet, the Masons thrown on the robe of the leader and try to run a global cabal. They thrown on the hat of a general, after taking off the hat of a banker, to both fund and run wars in the name of world government and the "Great Work".

What are their names?

Are the world leaders the same as Crowley--masons, yet following along to their own destruction? How can you help me see the difference between the average Mason and the ones funding and causing war for profit; building a NWO; leaving their watermark of symbols on all government and state buildings?

Maybe by you first providing me the names of these people.

Give me an honest answer. Are the Masons and the NWO Builders the same? If yes, do you agree with the ends and means? If no, why do they use YOUR symbols?

I do not believe in the group you are asking about.

edit on 28-1-2013 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer

And here is where you fall on your face on ATS. We don't need their names. They left a watermark and the compass, square, Egypt and all-seeing-eye are everywhere proclaiming their names to everyone. Universal symbols of one group are spread out over the landscape that previously went past the vision of those who are no longer blind. I don't think you have words to use that can cover the names of those who go unnamed.

Augustus, my brother, I don't know how you maintain the fortitude to respond to people like this but I nevertheless applaud your attempts to do so. What amazes me is that I clearly outlined in the OP why the logic of "masons worship lucifer" is literally nuts if you carry it out to its conclusion - and then we get certain posters replying that yes indeed masons worship lucifer that completely ignores the ramifications of such bad logic.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
And here is where you fall on your face on ATS. We don't need their names. They left a watermark and the compass, square, Egypt and all-seeing-eye are everywhere proclaiming their names to everyone. Universal symbols of one group are spread out over the landscape that previously went past the vision of those who are no longer blind. I don't think you have words to use that can cover the names of those who go unnamed.

In other words, you've got lots of big accusations but no actual proof or evidence?

Why, color me surprised.

Their name is Mason. Regardless of their given name, the oath connects the private associations to the fruit of the labor.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by EnochWasRight(religious hypocrite/Satan-believer/marital rape advocate)
And here is where you fall on your face on ATS. We don't need their names.

Uhm, yeah you do. Particularly when you are aksing pointed questions about Masonry in relation to alleged plotting and scheming by these unnamed persons.

Go read the thread I created mostly in your honor. You seem to constanly utliize the tactics outlined therein.

Originally posted by thelongjourney

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
And here is where you fall on your face on ATS. We don't need their names. They left a watermark and the compass, square, Egypt and all-seeing-eye are everywhere proclaiming their names to everyone. Universal symbols of one group are spread out over the landscape that previously went past the vision of those who are no longer blind. I don't think you have words to use that can cover the names of those who go unnamed.

In other words, you've got lots of big accusations but no actual proof or evidence?

Why, color me surprised.

I would think the Masons would be proud of the great work of the NWO. I am not sure why you guys deny the main task at hand for the organization. I can associate one to the other because the private associations are signed in stone with the signature of the organization. The entire world sees the signatures every day as we pass the halls of state and see the territories marked by symbols in stone.

Why do you guys hide? What is the purpose of working so hard, only to deny you are doing it? Why should ANYONE believe that the signature is not connected to the ones who hold it? Really? That's not an accusation. It's an honest observation that the ENTIRE world is wanting an answer to. As we near world war once again and our children will die, we are all wanting to know why the signers of state disavow their own work.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
I would think the Masons would be proud of the great work of the NWO. I am not sure why you guys deny the main task at hand for the organization. I can associate one to the other because the private associations are signed in stone with the signature of the organization. The entire world sees the signatures every day as we pass the halls of state and see the territories marked by symbols in stone.

Why do you guys hide? What is the purpose of working so hard, only to deny you are doing it? Why should ANYONE believe that the signature is not connected to the ones who hold it? Really? That's not an accusation. It's an honest observation that the ENTIRE world is wanting an answer to. As we near world war once again and our children will die, we are all wanting to know why the signers of state disavow their own work.

This is the last time I'm going to reply to you. First off, the NWO doesn't exist in anything except the feverish imagination of conspiracy theorist delusions. The term "New World Order" is simply a political term politicians throw out occasionally to indicate their will/desire to see a paradigm shift or sea change in whatever they are talking about. The delusion of the term referring to some actual, independent organization hellbent on some sort of malevolent goal is a myth. So masons cannot be proud of something which does not exist.

As usual, you don't even understand at a basic level what freemasonry is or what freemasons do. You ascribe meaning to symbols which arent there, claims symbols are masonic which have nothing to do with the fraternity, and then get mad when real masons tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about. You believe in a powerful delusion of the world based on conspiracy propaganda, and no amount of facts or reality will move you from that vision.