Originally posted by PsykoOps
You make the claim. Burden of proof is on you. So sip your coffee away and we'll see?
Ok seeing as you pick up the where hellobruce left off: before we begin, I am not going to hi jacked here into 100 different directions when you
don't agree with the material presented before you. Ill submit then the burden will be on the reader. Period. Agreed? we will start off with small
let start with this little tease.
in most all cases you get your last name from whom?
b) Merriam Webster
Also, The Father is the Head of the Family.
Do you concur?
Whelp, As I was preparing my information for this topic, I may have to concede before I even get started.
so I will cut to the chase:
As the bottom line to the argument is Natural and Naturalized born citizenship for qualification for president.
And I can see right off I am in over my head here. Not that I am or other are completely wrong but I know I am Not articulate enough to hold this
argument. I belive it worth the time spend to study and learn so us little people dont get dumb downed to the point we Americans are NOT bamboozled
Most of the confusion over the eligibility of John McCain seems to stem from the mistaken notion that "citizen at birth" has the same meaning as
"natural born citizen". The meaning is not the same. A naturalization statute can make a person a citizen at birth, but that does not make him
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401
§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of
citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
These first two correspond to "natural born". The rest are all "naturalized by statute". The Code lumps both into the same section, which is not
uncommon. Don't look to the U.S. Code for subtle distinctions. It is not, in general, the law. It is evidence of the law. The Code is derived from the
statutes by an office in the House of Representatives, the Office of the Law Revision Counsel, established for that purpose. They don't include all
the statutes, and don't always get it right.
8 U.S.C. §1101(a)(23) naturalization defined
(a)(23) The term ''naturalization'' means the conferring of nationality [NOT "citizenship" or "U.S. citizenship", but "nationality", which means
"U.S. national"] of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever.
here is a nice excerpt from this above link:
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