Originally posted by MajorMayhem
reply to post by JuniorBeauchamp
Use of a military action is only justified when used against another militarist group who threatens...
Is that what the "oath" states?
when your talk about our over-bloated government and corrupt officials then you don't need the army.
Then why did the Founders need an army when they could have worked through the "system" already in place?
what you'd need is to arouse the American populace, scrap the two party system abolish lobbyist groups and so on and so and so on... those are
things that have nothing to do with the military or the original question.edit on 27-1-2013 by MajorMayhem because: (no reason given)
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a
decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that
among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to
alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them
shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
Pay attention to these clauses:
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
another
"We the People" are the First Branch of Government, and when it becomes necessary, "We the People" have the God given right to dissolve "the
political bands which have connected them with another".
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their JUST powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever
any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
government
The "consent of the governed" is the First Branch of Government, ie-We the People", and by consent or dissent determine what is "JUST"
government. When government reaches the point of being "un-just", overstepping it's bounds and authority granted by the consent of We the People,
into tyranny, then "
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government".
By the way, that does not require consent of the government to do so. The direct opposite is the case.
So, are you trying to tell me that the oath taken by military personnel is not to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic?
Or are you telling me that the oath is to defend the federal government unconditionally?
