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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by SilentKoala
The concept of "rights" is just that, there are no "rights". There is only right, no plural. Somethings are right and somethings are wrong; but, there is no entitlement, look at history. Without a God there is not even a right or wrong. These are concepts, not requirements. I preach, I am told that if I preach and support a candidate that I can lose our tax status. Personally, I don't support any candidates and have given up on the parties, they have all been corrupted. Yet, I could care less about our tax status and say what I will. It is not a right according to the government. "Rights" just mean the law says you will be punished, rewarded or ignored for certain actions that you do, it is not cosmic. Peace.
Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
Rights can be removed by those with the power to take them away.
We as a nation have not been diligent and have allowed the gov to be the snakes they are and move in slow for a kill. They have been leading us down this path for a while waiting for enough people to be brainwashed so they could cripple us and force us into submission
Originally posted by Hefficide
"Rights" are an abstraction, clouded by the fact that we, as Americans, happen to live in a western country that provides us with enumerated rights by law.\
To speak of them as absolutes is not rational. Most westerners would, for example, speak of their right to medical or dental care. In America we spit in the face of this and scream "COMMUNISM" - but it doesn't change the reality that most of the modern world considers access to healthcare, regardless of ability to pay, an inherent right. Alternatively, many western nations do not see owning an assault rifle as an inherent right, where Americans do.
It's all in the eye of the beholder really and a matter of national identity and perspective.
In reality all we really have as "rights" is what we can take without others limiting. Underneath the veneer of society, Darwins ugly ghost lurks very close to the surface.
the bill of rights is the peoples "inherent" rights. or natural rights, or god given rights.
the government did not give these rights to the people, for they are "inherent".
therefor the government cannot take these rights away.
nor can they restrict them, as the constitution prohibits.
though they often do.
Originally posted by xedocodex
reply to post by bjax9er
False False False.
Go ahead and show me any text in the CONSTITUTION that says this. Not the Decleration, in which they talk about inalienable rights in reference to Life, Liberty, And The Pursuit Of Happiness....nothing about guns.
Show me the text in the CONSTITUTION, not the DECLARATION...which is not an official US Government document.
The Declaration of Independence Part of American Law
Professor John Eidsmoe writes:
"The role of the Declaration of Independence in American law is often misconstrued. Some believe the Declaration is simply a statement of ideas that has no legal force whatsoever today. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The Declaration has been repeatedly cited by the U.S. Supreme Court as part of the fundamental law of the United States of America.
"The United States Code Annotated includes the Declaration of Independence under the heading 'The Organic Laws of the United States of America' along with the Articles of Confederation, the Constitution, and the Northwest Ordinance.
Enabling acts frequently require states to adhere to the principles of the Declaration; in the Enabling Act of June 16, 1906, Congress authorized Oklahoma Territory to take steps to become a state. Section 3 provides that the Oklahoma Constitution 'shall not be repugnant to the Constitution of the United States and the principles of the Declaration of Independence.' (Christianity and the Constitution, pp. 360-361)