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Topic started on 26-1-2013 @ 05:49 PM by bjax9er

budgets must start in the house, then be passed in the senate.

the democrat controlled senate has not passed a budget since april, 29, 2009

so they use the baseline set in the 2009 budget.
which means they spend the same amount every year since 2009 + 6%

the 2009 budget included the $787 billion stimulus,
so in 2010 you take $787 billion X 1.06 (for the 6% increase) = $834 billion
2011=$884billion
2012=$937billion

so thats $3.442 trillion more than would have been spent had the tyrants, i mean the democrats passed a budget.

In 1974, a Democrat-dominated Congress in the throes of Watergate passed the Congressional Budget Act of 1974. Among other things, the act established the Congressional Budget Office and codified the notion of baseline budgeting. A budgetary baseline increases about 6% per year. Any expenditure less than that 6% yearly increase is portrayed as a budget cut by Democrats and their media lackeys. One of the games played by Democrats under this law is the passage of stimulus bills. When a stimulus is passed, it adds immediately to the budget baseline for that year and then for every succeeding year. So the Obama-Pelosi-Reid stimulus passed in 2009 added $787 billion of new spending to the federal budget in 2009. It then went on to add $834 billion of new spending in 2010 ($787 billion times 1.06 for the 6% yearly increase); $884 billion in 2011; and finally $937 billion in 2012. Over the last four years, this totals $3,442 billion more than would have been budgeted through the normal process -- which is precisely why the Democrats wanted it passed as a stimulus. Since Harry Reid's Democratic majority in the Senate has consistently refused to pass a budget for nearly three years, the continuing resolutions have simply maintained the yearly automatic 6% increase in spending, leading to the enormous budget deficits of the Obama years. Interestingly enough, the 2009 Obama stimulus was not the first stimulus passed by the Reid- Pelosi congresses. They passed a $152 billion stimulus in 2007 when the democrats retook majorities in the House and the Senate. Another $146 billion stimulus passed in 2008. President Bush signed both of them. The 2007 stimulus added $1,060 billion and the 2008 stimulus added $823 billion of new spending through 2012. Add the three totals together and you end up with $5,326 billion of new spending based simply on adding a new stimulus to the yearly budget baseline and never removing them. That $5,326 billion ($5.3 trillion) represents the entirety of the new deficit spending under the Obama administration which has not had one of their budgets passed since 2009. So what do we learn from all of this? First is that the Democrats are bloody good at deception and fraud. Read more: www.americanthinker.com... Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

so who are the tyrants stealing our labor, then demanding we pay more???
the democrats

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 05:56 PM by Wrabbit2000

Indeed and great catch! I'm glad to see someone addressing this. While I give Boehner NO passes for not even seriously attempting to do HIS side of what the Constitution demands by black letter law .....He had absolutely no reason to beyond the purely symbolic. The senate had made very clear that they wouldn't be touching the issue again for 2012. A similar comment was made in relation to 2013, a few months ago with regard to election years and such. Well.. I wish I could tell my creditors such things. Now that would be a neat trick for us mere mortals.

Senate Democratic leaders do not plan to propose a budget this year, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters Friday, saying that they had already done so with the debt-ceiling agreement.

“We do not need to bring a budget to the floor this year — it’s done, we don’t need to do it,” Reid said, according to The Hill.

Democrats have said that the agreement reached to raise the Debt Ceiling set spending for Fiscal Year 2012.

Source

Gotta love that logic tho, eh? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. These are THE national leaders..and it's like a big joke to them.

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reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 05:56 PM by ResistTreason

If these politicians were hired as employees of any other job in America, they would be FIRED within the first few days with their work ethic or total lack thereof...

Useless. Failures.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 05:59 PM by syrinx high priest

obama is a senator now ?

huh ?

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 06:04 PM by randyvs

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Indeed and great catch!

I agree.

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FnS

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reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 06:09 PM by Wrabbit2000

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
obama is a senator now ?

huh ?

Part of the job of the President of the United States, whoever holds that office, is leadership. Leadership through FORCE when necessary. Force, but not subterfuge and deception. There is a huge difference.

The options President Obama has for forcing Congress to produce a budget, if HE cared to see them make one, is to hold them in session FOREVER if he so desires ...or until such time as their numbered session of Congress closes to the next elected crop to be seated. No vacations...No Holidays...no NOTHING. Past Presidents HAVE done this to one degree or another occasionally when push came to shove and Congress needed shoved hard.

Of course, I can guess why this President wouldn't have the least bit of interest in using the power to force a budget.

As the OP states? No budget in a formal sense means no limits to stay within. As Harry himself states there.....raising the debt ceiling set the budget. That's the most reckless way I can imagine to run a nation the size and importance to world economies as ours. We won't crash by deliberate design. We''re going to crash by apathy and indifference right through the top leadership.

*I hope the OP doesn't mind my taking that one to address

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reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 06:17 PM by bjax9er

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
obama is a senator now ?

huh ?

catchy title huh?

hey keep defending him and his cronies if you want.

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reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 06:43 PM by neo96

They said the Ipad wasn't around the last time they passed a budget.

That says something.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 06:47 PM by bjax9er

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no worries wrabbit...

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 06:59 PM by Aloysius the Gaul

reply to post by bjax9er

So are you saying that the Republican House is deliberately aiding and abetting the higher spending by putting up budgets they know will not be accepted?

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 07:11 PM by bjax9er

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

no your saying that.

a house passed budget is not a take it or leave it proposition.

the senate can amend the bill and send it back to the house.

but they will not even bring it to the floor for debate.

so yes the democrats are deliberately aiding and abetting the theft of the peoples labor.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 07:12 PM by solomons path

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

No . . . he is saying that the Democrat controlled Senate will not pass anything with spending cuts and any sane budget plan for this nation should include plenty. And, instead of the President being on board with spending cuts, as we do not have revenue problem, he is complicit in these actions.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 08:25 PM by Aloysius the Gaul

But Obama has accepted or proposed spending cut - not as many as the Republicans have proposed - but not none at all either.

www.whitehouse.gov... - even Obamacare cuts Federal spending - that's not propaganda..well it is I guess....but it is also true!

This is discretionary spending - of course he doesn't get to cut mandatory spending because that is..well.... mandated by Federal law, as I am sure you are aware.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 08:36 PM by bjax9er

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obamacare raises spending by 1.7 trillion over the next 10 years, and thats from the cbo.gov

so how does that cut anything?

and he only proposes cuts to the 6% yearly increase.

so instead of 6% he proposes a 4% increase instead.

and were supposed to call that a "spending cut".

give me a break!!!

and the "law" can be changed at any time.

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reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 08:46 PM by sheepslayer247

This entire issue is a Red Herring.

Yes, Obama is spending a lot of money. No real cuts are being made and it does not make sense to anyone with half a brain.

But considering the source of the article and the particular people they were trying to reach, why are they only looking at the Democrats and Obama?

Why is nothing being said about the Billions and Trillions of taxpayer dollars we have spent to pad the pockets of Republican cronies in the military-industrial complex and the intelligence community?

While true on the surface, they are hoping you point fingers at the Dems and forget to look at the Right as well.

Misdirection........

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 09:43 PM by bjax9er

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tyrant tactic #1

trash the source of information as false or misleading.

tyrant tactic #2

point the finger at the other guy.

it's not just true on the surface, it's fact all the way around.
though i do agree it has clearly been going on since 1974 in all administrations.
just not to the extent it is now, under the tyrant in chief.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 09:51 PM by bjax9er

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Why is nothing being said about the Billions and Trillions of taxpayer dollars we have spent to pad the pockets of Republican cronies in the military-industrial complex and the intelligence community?

democrats have been whining about this for the last 12 years not stop. and rightly so.
all the while they are padding their own pockets and that of their cronies.

so drop the hypocrisy, everyone knows most politicians are crooks.

especially the tyrants, i mean democrats.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 10:11 PM by Pedro4077

What a Useless Thread.

You have 545 tyrants - not 1.

"So who's up for some Taxpayer Funded Hookers?"

Even Foreigners like myself can see this.

545 vs 300 Million

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reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 10:54 PM by bjax9er

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thanks "captain" i had not noticed.

reply posted on 26-1-2013 @ 10:55 PM by sheepslayer247

Originally posted by bjax9er

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Why is nothing being said about the Billions and Trillions of taxpayer dollars we have spent to pad the pockets of Republican cronies in the military-industrial complex and the intelligence community?

democrats have been whining about this for the last 12 years not stop. and rightly so.
all the while they are padding their own pockets and that of their cronies.

so drop the hypocrisy, everyone knows most politicians are crooks.

especially the tyrants, i mean democrats.