Explosion at Iran nuclear facility, assassinations of military! sabotage? false flag?, page 5

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reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 02:22 AM by Britguy

Something that has been bugging me since this "story" first broke, has been "what is the word from the IAEA"?
After all, as I have understood it, they not only have people on the ground at these locations but also have CCTV and even, on occasion, live feeds, to ensure there is no diversion of material and to monitor everything.
That being the case, you'd think they would have the scoop on a huge explosion and destruction of the facility.

Found this earlier which seems to back that up.

enenews.com...

The U.N. nuclear agency is dismissing reports of a major explosion at Iran’s fortified underground nuclear facility.

International Atomic Energy Agency spokeswoman Gill Tudor told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Iran’s denial of “an incident” at the Fordo uranium enrichment plant is “consistent with our observations.” [...]

A diplomat familiar with the issue told AP that the IAEA’s information came directly from IAEA inspectors at Fordo.

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 03:00 AM by Thorneblood

Nice find, so it's all fake unless the IAEA has a history of covering things up.

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 10:19 AM by Deetermined

Is there anyone from Iran who will confirm or deny this story?

I just think it's a little odd that one of ATS' vocal members from Iran hasn't been on ATS since January 20th to say anything about this.

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 11:20 AM by Deetermined

This was reported on the 27th, but this is the first I've heard of this being a gas line explosion.

As my friend Reza Kahlili reports, a few days ago there was an explosion at the Iranian nuclear facility at Fordo, near the holy city of Qom. Confirmation has been dribbling in, mostly from the German press. I’m told that there was indeed an explosion, which took place in a gas line that was being run to a new part of the Fordo facility, deep underground. I don’t know if it was sabotage or an accident, but eyewitnesses talk about a monster blast, and it does indeed appear that lots of workers are trapped.

pjmedia.com...

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 11:23 AM by ken10

IAEA backs Iran's denial of Fordow explosion

UN watchdog says it saw no sign of a blast at Iran's underground uranium enrichment site Fordow, in line with Iran's claim.

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reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 12:15 PM by Xcouncil=wisdom

And I would say the inspecter at the IAEA has been paid off or decieved.

Here is the full article from the AP...not very much info, but the second to last sentence is very interesting:

"VIENNA (AP) — The U.N. nuclear agency is dismissing reports of a major explosion at Iran's fortified underground nuclear facility.

International Atomic Energy Agency spokeswoman Gill Tudor told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Iran's denial of "an incident" at the Fordo uranium enrichment plant is "consistent with our observations."

Some news organizations have cited Israeli intelligence reports of a blast at Fordo.

A diplomat familiar with the issue told AP that the IAEA's information came directly from IAEA inspectors at Fordo. He demanded anonymity because he was not authorized to comment.

Iran is enriching uranium at Fordo to a level that is just a technical step away from nuclear warhead material.

Tehran says it is enriching only for reactor fuel and for scientific purposes and denies accusations it wants nuclear arms."

hosted2.ap.org...

edit on 30-1-2013 by Xcouncil=wisdom because: he wanted to

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 12:39 PM by Deetermined

And while Iran is using a statement made by the IAEA to back up their story, they also had this to say about the IAEA....

Abbasi also told the UN nuclear agency in Vienna that "terrorists and saboteurs" might have infiltrated the International Atomic Energy Agency, after the watchdog's inspectors arrived at the Fordo underground enrichment facility shortly after power lines were blown up through sabotage on Aug. 17.

Iran has several times complained that the IAEA is sending spies in the guise of inspectors to collect information about its nuclear activities, pointing to leaks of information by inspectors to US and other officials.

Here is what else Iran had to say about an attempt made last August...

Late in August, a senior Iranian legislator said Iran's nuclear scientists and experts have managed to thwart enemies' plots to infiltrate and blow up the country's newly constructed Fordo uranium enrichment facility.

"The enemies intended to repeat a Chernobyl-like disaster through selling (booby-trapped) equipment and blowing up the centrifuges at the Fordo site, but their plot was discovered and foiled by the Iranian scientists' wisdom and tact," member of the parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Abbas Ali Mansouri told FNA at the time.

In relevant remarks, Iran's nuclear chief, Fereidoun Abbasi, said that separate attacks on Iran's centrifuges - through tiny explosives meant to disable key parts of the machines - were discovered before the blasts could go off on timers.

english.farsnews.com...

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 03:07 PM by Thorneblood

Something occurred to me as i was reading another thread about the recent strikes in Syria on Al-Jazeera

Source

Airspace violation

The military in Lebanon, which shares borders with both Israel and Syria, said on Wednesday that Israeli warplanes have sharply increased their activity over Lebanon in the past week, including at least 12 sorties in less than 24 hours in the country's south.

A senior Lebanese security official said there were no Israeli airstrikes inside Lebanese territory. Asked whether it could have been along the border on the Syrian side, he said that that could not be confirmed as it was out of his area of operations.

He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the media.

A Lebanese army statement said the last of the airspace violations took place at 2 am local time on Wednesday. It said four warplanes which flew in over the southernmost coastal town of Naqoura hovered for several hours over villages in southern Lebanon before leaving Lebanese airspace.

It said similar flights by eight other warplanes were conducted on Tuesday.

Israeli violations of Lebanese airspace occur on a daily basis and Lebanese authorities routinely lodge complaints at the UN against the flights

I know this happens a lot, but could one of these airspace violations have been related to the explosion and if so is it possible to verify it somehow with UN reports of the violations?

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 07:01 PM by Deetermined

reply to post by Thorneblood

According to Dr. Ali Reza Nourizadeh, it looks like it might all be related (as published on 01/28/13)...

Dr Ali Reza Nourizadeh, a senior researcher and director of the Centre for Arab & Iranian Studies in London, confirmed during a telephone interview with Missing Peace that an explosion has occurred in the underground uranium enrichment facility in Fordow Iran.

Nourizadeh, who is a commentator for Deutsche Welle and the Voice of America and has an extensive network of contacts in Iran, told us that the explosion has caused relatively little damage to the uranium enrichment facility itself but that the blast has blocked the entrance to Fordow. He confirmed that more than 200 personnel are trapped in the plant and that there is a unknown number of casualties.

He said that since the blast the city of Qom, where Fordow is located, has been encircled by forces of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. He also reported that today the regime arrested between eight and twelve Iranian journalists who where accused of collaborating with foreign media. Nourizadeh said that local journalists have been responsible for leaking information about the incident in Fordow. Their computers and other equipment has been confiscated.

Nourizadeh dismissed reports about an imminent Iranian retaliation against Israel via Hezbollah. He said that Iran will not retaliate at this point of time, but it could be that Hezbollah will heat up the border with Israel for reasons more related to the Syrian civil war.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com...

reply posted on 30-1-2013 @ 07:24 PM by Deetermined

In the meanwhile, there's an interesting update from World Net Daily...

In a statement to Reuters, IAEA spokeswoman Gill Tudor implied the U.N. agency had inspected the site after the reported explosions and affirmed Tehran’s insistence that the report was false.

But when asked by WND, Tudor would not confirm or deny the incident.

“The agency does not evaluate matters in Iran other than those directly relating to its nuclear verification work, so although we’re aware of these media reports, we are not in a position either to confirm or deny them,” Tudor said in an email to WND.

“That said,” she continued, “I’m sure you are aware that agency inspectors regularly visit Iranian nuclear facilities under the IAEA’s safeguards agreement with that country. (You will find more information on the IAEA’s safeguards mandate and activities in Iran at www.iaea.org...)

“We understand Iran has denied that there has been an incident at Fordow, and this is consistent with our observations,” Tudor said.

If you read all of the latest reports on the IAEA's website, you can read the bashing that the IAEA received from Iran on December 14, 2012 about what and how they do their reporting.

www.iaea.org...

Obviously, there's something cryptic about Tudor's message regarding the safeguards agreement.

www.iaea.org...

www.iaea.org...

The last official report from the IAEA on Iran was on November 16, 2012...

www.iaea.org...

So, what else does Tudor have to share?

However, in a follow-up inquiry by WND to verify if the IAEA had inspected the site since the report of the explosions, Tudor refused to answer.

“I’m very sorry but I can’t go into any further details on ongoing safeguards work, which is conducted with a high level of confidentiality,” she replied.

Update on WND's sources...

WND has received confirmation of the blasts from two additional sources, one in Iran’s Foreign Ministry and another in the intelligence agency of a European country.

Another source in Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s office told WND the head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization, Fereydoon Abbasi-Davani, will be replaced because of the leaked news on Fordow and the delay in the talks with the 5-plus-1 powers over Iran’s nuclear development. The 5-plus-1 nations are the permanent Security Council members Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States plus Germany.

Worries regarding Iran's response...

An official with a European intelligence agency who cannot be named for security reasons said that both the IAEA and the United States are worried about questioning Iran’s denial.

They are aware of Iran’s lies, the official said, but fear Tehran could stop the cooperation it so far has provided to the IAEA over inspections and derail any future talks with the 5-plus-1.

Additional troubles for Iran...

A source in the regime’s Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit told WND the situation in Iran is troubling. He reported an explosion at the Guards’ Hamzeh 21 base and the discovery of two bombs at the secret nuclear plant in Najaf Abad. He said Quds Force officers have been ordered to Lebanon to assist Hezbollah in evacuating some of the southern villages in what appears to be planned aggression against Israel.