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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by jimmiec
[Here is proof that you are mistaken. Butt out of our countries business and go back to your chains.





haha the irony - first that was then, now is now - they would not get away with that today.

Secondly you obviously cannot see your chains - that don't mean you 'aint got them ... enjoy your chain free existence !!!
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:13 AM
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British spirit and a frying pan, when the ammo runs out





posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:13 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong but if I can remember...does'nt being a Business Journalist in the U.K. mean that your paper tend to cover the Business World Sex Scandals to a much greater extent than a Business Newspaper in the U.S.?

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by wantsome
Take a 100 Brits and drop them off in the worst part of Detroit after dark. I'd be willing to bet half of them don't make it out.


congrats for illustrating for us all that the US is f###ed beyond redemption


in the uk we have these things called testicles, they are large and made of steel lol, look 'em up



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
 


Correct me if I am wrong but if I can remember...does'nt being a Business Journalist in the U.K. mean that your paper tend to cover the Business World Sex Scandals to a much greater extent than a Business Newspaper in the U.S.?

Split Infinity



Nope, I worked for a specialised magazine that dealt with insurance and reinsurance. The only sex scandal I ever heard about was a second-hand story about just why a top executive left a company (and which, as we couldn't prove it, we didn't write about it).



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by wantsome
Take a 100 Brits and drop them off in the worst part of Detroit after dark. I'd be willing to bet half of them don't make it out.


All i'd have to do is open my mouth and even the worst of Detroit's criminal gang bangers would be falling over themselves to bring me tea and crumpets when they heard my dulcet english voice.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by bates

Originally posted by wantsome
Take a 100 Brits and drop them off in the worst part of Detroit after dark. I'd be willing to bet half of them don't make it out.


All i'd have to do is open my mouth and even the worst of Detroit's criminal gang bangers would be falling over themselves to bring me tea and crumpets when they heard my dulcet english voice.
Haha! You sure they'd understand you though, seeing as you're from Brum?



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by bates

Originally posted by wantsome
Take a 100 Brits and drop them off in the worst part of Detroit after dark. I'd be willing to bet half of them don't make it out.


All i'd have to do is open my mouth and even the worst of Detroit's criminal gang bangers would be falling over themselves to bring me tea and crumpets when they heard my dulcet english voice.


quoted for truth ... to you sir, i take my hat off



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:21 AM
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reply to post by grainofsand
 


wayers mi tay?

black country here



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:23 AM
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Because Americans have a certain spirit. A certain drive. Perhaps because it is a product of being a "young" nation. Perhaps because in our infancy a ragtag group of volunteers, with minimal training and inferior weapons put a "smack down" on the British empire and EARNED their freedom. Canadians and Australians love to tell Americans how we should live. By what right do they voice such opinions? Their freedoms and independence were given to them while Americans EARNED theirs through pain and deprivation.

Is America always right? Do we as a nation always make the proper choices? No, not by a long shot. However, no person is right all the time and that is true evn more so for a nation.

Hows do American woes and tribulations effect England? Australia? Canada? If America is so bad, petition your governments to sever ALL ties with us. Economic, military, travel, ALL ties.

Is life so dear or peace so sweet, so as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I say forbid it almighty GOD. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me LIBERTY or give me DEATH
~ Henry


Those words were spoken by an American to Americans and a great many of us continue to hold these words close to our hearts and instill those values into our children.

I have never lived in England, Australia, of Canada.I have passed through them several times and I have been friends with many of their citizens. As people we are not dissimilar. We laugh, we joke, we love, we cry, and we all form the bonds of friendship with each other. At our core is where the differences lie.

It is just not in our nature, as Americans, to be subjects. Our guns are an insurance for that.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by JrDavis

Originally posted by HelenConway

Originally posted by wantsome
It seems you are missing the whole point and you are defending "Brits" in a thread in which the OP was showing that Brits do not need firearms because they can defend using physical force.

And yet you take it personally when someone says "Throw them into our environment and see if they make it out alive"

Truth is, parts of certain states have guns.

Illegally or legally.

And there is evil in the world that plans to use these weapons for bad not good (Unless you want to debate that)

Much like our Governments.

And whether it be Americans or Brits that get dropped in parts of Detroit one thing is certain.

You will want/need a firearm to defend you.

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I do not agree with the claims the OP makes - I think we should have easier access to fireams - in fcat I think Tesco should sell them, seriously.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:25 AM
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Then why have you let your governments take your freedoms away recently?
Like I said Its all just words.

Oh and we are not subjects we are citizens...
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:26 AM
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it is not difficult to get hold of a shotgun, and with a tiny bit more effort a rifle.... you could have a semi auto rifle if you joined a gun club, and your safe storage could be in your bedroom...all legal etc... so why not sort it out and get one?



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by skalla

Originally posted by JrDavis

Originally posted by skalla
back on topic please folks, please remember that we have posters from the states who need to talk about patriotism, blood debts and not overthrowing the tyrannical government they whine all over ATS about....


Oh the Irony.

What a post from someone with such a signature.

Funny though because owning a firearm doesn't breach upon anyone's freedom.

It's a preemptive measure to defend against neighboring and abroad.

So making sly comments like that actually goes against your definition of freedom.
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jeez, i'm surprised you dignified me with a reply


enjoying the "freedom" of having your schools turned into a tinpan ally or being so awash with guns that every has to have one? fair enough i suppose... frankly i enjoy the freedom of not expecting a gun to be used by a criminal, or some random individual who just cant take it anymore


points for not bringing your little book in to it though


The deal is there are still Americans that believe in the constitution. In which everyone was born with civil liberty's. Rights and liberty's that obviously our Government is not following.

So if you were smart, You know the American society has been split over the past 12 years.

Into 2 categories.

1 - Being the oppressive Government that doesn't want to follow the rules i.e the Constitution. In which a lot of people believe in the "No Harm" Government.

2 - Americans that believe in Civil Liberty's and freedoms that everyone is born with. Which now these people are getting upset because they know the Government is up to something.


Although you're not American (You might be I'm not sure) you seem to preach freedom as if everyone should have it and should be allowed to use it as long as it does not breach upon your freedom.


Hmmm sounds like the Universal Law of Liberty to me.

So the issue?

Many things stick out here. Some of the biggest concerns are this

Other country's and certain Americans are watching the show that is going on in the states with the firearms.

As group 1 stirs up issues and puts a show on making it seem like lunatics are using firearms to breach upon individual liberty. The ones watching the show get the response that group 1 wants.

"Oh my god they are going crazy over there with firearms killing people"

When everyone is in Awe because our schools are turned into "Tinpan" you better believe that the thing cherish quite possibly the most; Which would be there flesh and blood children. Will result in them saying

"Okay we do not need the freedom to defend when our own flesh and blood are being killed by lunatics"

Now whether you can read between the lines and see the show for what it truly is. Who the man behind the curtain is. And the direction they want the country to go in is your own issue.

If freedom were not an issue they wouldn't be taking away parts of freedom.

Freedom works much like a clock. Take pieces away and it wont "Tick" properly.

Another thing that is an issue right now is the fact that health care is not honest and most people "Especially Americans" are being subjected to toxins and poisons.

Fluoride is one of them, also Mercury. In which people will go crazy

If health is not maintained and we allow Chemtrails and many other substances and toxins to control our society (Which I believe is from group 1, They knowingly do it, Also knowingly don't care"

Then you bet your bottom dollar there will be people that cannot think straight and accept the fact that freedom is not to be used to breach upon anyone else "Freedom"

Now that you are on the same page. I think you owe an apology to the individuals that read your post and take your "Tinpan" school shooting to heart.

Freedom; Especially speech. Does not slander to make it's point.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by HelenConway
I think we should have easier access to fireams - in fcat I think Tesco should sell them, seriously.
I wouldn't buy a gun from Tesco unless they improve their supply source verification...horse meat and all that lol
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:28 AM
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awesome, i had not had a quote from some old american dude for a couple of hours.... i really dont mind what you guys do in your country, but i do find the sanctimonious historical clap trap irresistable at times and i just have to take the michael, soz




posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by skalla
reply to post by HelenConway
 


it is not difficult to get hold of a shotgun, and with a tiny bit more effort a rifle.... you could have a semi auto rifle if you joined a gun club, and your safe storage could be in your bedroom...all legal etc... so why not sort it out and get one?


I might - I might learn how to use a bow and arrow too - are there archery clubs ? There are aren't there



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by skalla
reply to post by grainofsand
 


wayers mi tay?

black country here



Welshman 20 yrs in the Westcountry here, my accent is well messed up!



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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reply to post by JrDavis
 


it's really not down to me to apologise for the fact that some of your people are taking pot shots in your schools...

besides that you rambled alot



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:37 AM
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Now as far as being a Journalist...what would be your take on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights that allows us the Right to Bear Arms?

Split Infinity





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