posted on Jan, 27 2013 @ 03:39 AM
Another one...are people using ATS as some kind of propaganda machine? One on hand there's these threads saying "here's why we need guns" and on
the other hand we have threads like this one.
We're too intolerant as a species to unite, I've done a lot of thinking on this over the last few weeks and am currently at a crossroads. You see,
as a brit I've never had the desire or need for a gun, and was vocal about that, but I can only speak for me and the culture in which I was raised. I
was intolerant and self righteous regarding this issue.
I find it hilarious that we, the ATS community, who mostly pride ourselves on being objective, forward, free-thinkers, can't discuss an issue without
it descending into an idiotic debate about tea and coffee...hurling childish insults at one another.
I'm sick to death of this nation, in the UK people care more about who wins big brother than who wins a general election - that is not an
exaggeration, it's an insult to humankind. We also have a constitution, the magna carta and constitutional bill of right, most UK citizens don't
know it exists, or think it's meaningless or simply don't care because hollyoaks is on tv.
I've tried to talk to people about these issues, they don't understand, or don't care...or think I'm a nutter, well soon find out who the nutter
is because it's at breaking point...an economy built on debt is unsustainable, I work hard and have less and less every day, it's not as gradual as
it once was, the changes are tangible and it's really making me angry, our country is in ruins and they want to let more immigrants in, yet the
general populace is too drunk, drugged or entertained to notice or care.
That, and our gun laws - are the only things that seperate us from the US...because in the US they actually value their constitution and there's an
element who want to preserve it...not here. Me? I want to march on parliament, I want our citizens to come together and take our country back...but
I'd have a small army of about 5 people at my back if I did and we'd fail...people simply don't care. When the shtf...and IT WILL, most here will
roll over and accept it without question.
I'm sick to death of it, all of it...and I have to add, if your american guns are for overthrowing a tyrannical government...what are you waiting
for? They are already tyrranical, are they not? We know what's happening, we discuss it on a daily basis...sitting around waiting for some mass
awakening that's NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! The time s now.
But most worrying of all, I think there will be a revolution, and the outcome will either be we lose and the tyrants consolidate their power,
enslaving us all openly and we lose, or we win...we overthrow the tyrants only to continue fighting among ourselves, even here we can't discuss this
stuff without it resorting to childish insanity.
I think there's a certain element out there who is deliberately trying to drive a wedge between us and divide us and make a revolution nigh-on
impossible, or if we do revolt and win we'll only continue to fight among ourselves and re-establish the world we currently want to change, and it's
damn sad, so can we stop it now?
I often think that if ATS we a live arena where people met to discuss these issues in the flesh that there would have been a massacre by now.
I'd just like to add, people tackling robbers etc is nothing new, this happens all the time, all over the world with various different outcomes,
tackling armed robbers is not exclusive to the UK, dig around and you'll find similar stories that go way back. There have been a few threads like
this on here recetly fom both sides...and it smacks of propaganda...I resent people using the ATS community to promote an agenda instead of for