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Originally posted by iwilliam
Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by timetothink
You don't really want chaos.
I don't. Life is going great for me. Moving to Miami with my wife. Huge job offer that I accepted... I hope for no chaos and I hope you don't want it either
I appreciate your sane attitude, and glad you wrote this-- not just for its own sake, but also that I think it illustrates what a polarized society we've become. The well-to-do rarely want the boat rocked too hard. That's just how it is when you've got something to lose. Do understand, however, that you may be one of the more fortunate ones in our society. There are many people out there who survive on $1500-$1000 / month or less.... and by "many" I mean "millions." Many of those people would probably cheer if there were a revolution tomorrow. Living check to piddly check and having few prospects of escape has a way of doing that to a person.
Meanwhile many others live very comfortable lives-- never having to want for anything, or having to worry they might end up in a position of severe struggle and suffering (like those other millions of people). Of course there are varying degrees of this, just as there are varying degrees of being poor and struggling. But the gap seems to be widening.
The less you have, the more you possibly stand to gain by massive societal upheaval and change, it would seem. And vice versa.
Maybe if corporatism hadn't been allowed to run amok-- if "they" hadn't been allowed to stack the deck so heavily in favor of those who were already affluent, and against those at the bottom of the totem pole, we wouldn't find ourselves in this situation.
Despite being one of those who feels "stacked against" I too hope we can find a peaceful resolution that will be beneficial to all parties.
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by AutOmatIc
Well if you take a second to think about it. Maybe the reason that they released the files still encrypted was to show to the government that the threat they are showing is real. Give the government time to realize what information that Anonymous has so that the government realizes its error and changes. Yet I'm sure that Anonymous realizes that the government won't change despite this info and will eventually release the encryption key. Sure it seems petty, but the way I see it, Anonymous is giving the government one last chance to do the right thing before it drops this cyber "nuclear warhead" on everyone.
Of course this is all provided that Anonymous isn't part of one of the government's alphabet soup agencies.edit on 27-1-2013 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)
Having read about this, I'm incredulous about some of the ludricous bs being posted on this whole thing. I don't understand why this hacker group anon is making a martyr out of this Swartz guy. The bottom line is he broke the law, and he stole. So now these anon dirtbags go and make threats to bring down the internet and release all kinds of confidential information.
If the good that men do is oft interred with their bones, so be it, but in the meantime I feel a responsibility to correct some of the erroneous information being posted as comments to otherwise informative discussions at Reddit, Hacker News and Boing Boing. Apparently some people feel the need to self-aggrandize by opining on the guilt of the recently departed, and I wanted to take this chance to speak on behalf of a man who can no longer defend himself. I had hoped to ask Aaron to discuss these issues on the Defcon stage once he was acquitted, but now that he has passed it is important that his memory not be besmirched by the ignorant and uninformed. I have confirmed with Aaron’s attorneys that I am free to discuss these issues now that the criminal case is moot.
In short, Aaron Swartz was not the super hacker breathlessly described in the Government’s indictment and forensic reports, and his actions did not pose a real danger to JSTOR, MIT or the public. He was an intelligent young man who found a loophole that would allow him to download a lot of documents quickly. This loophole was created intentionally by MIT and JSTOR, and was codified contractually in the piles of paperwork turned over during discovery.
If I had taken the stand as planned and had been asked by the prosecutor whether Aaron’s actions were “wrong”, I would probably have replied that what Aaron did would better be described as “inconsiderate”. In the same way it is inconsiderate to write a check at the supermarket while a dozen people queue up behind you or to check out every book at the library needed for a History 101 paper. It is inconsiderate to download lots of files on shared wifi or to spider Wikipedia too quickly, but none of these actions should lead to a young person being hounded for years and haunted by the possibility of a 35 year sentence.
The U.S. Sentencing Commission website has been hacked again and a code distributed by Anonymous "Operation Last Resort" turns ussc.gov into a playable video game. Visitors enter the code, and then the website that sets guidelines for sentencing in United States Federal courts becomes "Asteroids." Shooting away at the ussc.gov webpage reveals an image of Anonymous. The trademark Anonymous "Guy Fawkes" face is comprised of white text saying, "We do not forgive. We do not forget."