Originally posted by kaylaluv
I think there are different kinds of gun violence
What do you mean by different kinds of gun violence? Are we talking about gun related homicides? I was with my argument.
Mass shooters tend to use assault-style weapons
Again...what's the actual goal? To prevent mass shootings or to prevent homicides? I think that's a legitimate question. 75+ percent of gun related
homicides are hand guns. I understand addressing them separately.... but why would the drastically less significant (in terms of deaths) take
priority? I really feel the horribleness of these school shootings are clouding the logic here.
The best approach would be to address the mental health issue, as most mass shooters tend to be mentally ill.
I think in their case yes. Difficult to resolve this problem that's for sure.
Assault-style weapons with high capacity magazines are not necessary for hunting or personal defense, so let's get rid of them.
Wouldn't that depend on what you were defending against?
Sure typically home security wouldn't call for them. Actually I think shotgun is probably the best.
I am highly skeptic of how effective a ban would be towards criminals. I think it would only strengthen the black market. As can be seen in other
non-gun examples. I think it would only work if they were literally gotten rid of.
Gang violence is a different type of violence.
The end result is still bodily harm and often death. But my argument wasn't towards gang violence. Just the homicide stats in general. 75+ percent is
not just gang.
but handguns are also the most common weapon for personal defense for law-abiding citizens.
AND the most common gun they are defending against! If 'assault weapons' were banned. People would still be defending themselves primarily against
we should crack down on the black market sale of guns, and have universal background checks.
I support this. This infringes on the Right apparently but I don't care
We should do background checks. Also, people should get their right to own
a gun taking away (length, punishment meets the crime) once any violence is shown. Say a man beats his wife up. His rights to own a gun should be
revoked for a time. I support guns, of any kind, to law-abiding citizens that are not violent. If violence is shown they should lose the "privilege".
Really I don't think laws have much affect on anyone but people that abide by them in general i.e not criminals. We should instead focus on
dismantling the black market. But the truth of the matter is, most of these types of crimes happen as a result of societal stress. Poverty breeds it.
Root cause, but of course difficult to tackle without drastic changes.
So to repeat myself. I think citizens should be allowed to own any type of gun. Should have to have a background check. Any history of violence should
be a disqualifier (at least for a period of time). Unless guns themselves are being physically eliminated, there is a need to defend against guns and
if someone wants a more powerful gun for home security I see no reason to disallow it so long as they are law-abiding citizens without a history of
violence. Criminals don't follow laws, hit them hard on their own domain (the black market). Prevention of school shootings could be addressed by more
patrolling officers assigned to schools.
We should also be taking a serious look at violence in music, movies and video games, and the effects these have on young developing
Mortal Kombat, Rambo, and Metallica eh? I seriously doubt it will be a fruitful venture, but I am not against anyone exploring the idea.
Here is some personal testimony. Perhaps myopic....you can be the judge.
I very much partook in all those things at a young age. Listened to heavy rock. Watched violent movies. Played violent video games. And when I say
young I mean not even a teenager. I was free to watch rated R action movies at 10. Extreme right?
Either I have a very strong resilience to being
violent or this theory of violent media causing violence is just not a correct one. I have never once, outside of martial art tournaments, been
violent. I don't have violent thoughts either. I am tell this day a huge fan of horror movies. I don't desire beheading people, drinking blood, or
hacking people up with a hatchet. Why? Because when I watch them I know it's fantasy. And I know doing that in real life would be bad. I am also a
good person, so don't have the desire to do bad to begin with. I think for violent media to have such an effect one would have to be lacking the
ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.
Banning assault-style weapons... it is one step of many that need to be taken.
It would be better solved by casting them back into the fiery chasm from whence they came
Frodo I trust you to use a griffon this time
on 27-1-2013 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)