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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 02:36 PM
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i sincerely thought you d produced a callout thread aesir

....but i think you geneinely do not understand what means the concept of " to imitate " .
to imitate, in such way, that the original God is almost buried onder the many false versions -

please search that out , first
and then write about these kind of topics.




posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by XsweetNspiceyX

Who else would create mankind keep them in a zoo(garden of eden), Realize keeping them dumbed down was wrong. Give them intelligence. Ask not to be worshipped, but proclaim to be the son of the heavenly father (universe)? God/Satan!


Well, Saturn would keep them in the golden-age of his stomach. To be puked up out of his stomach is to be kicked out of the Garden.


Same archetype, different variant.

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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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Much like Cronus eating up his children and Zeus gutting him to rescue his brothers. I like all the analogy's of the same thing. Some are more imaginative and adventurous then others..



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by XsweetNspiceyX
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Much like Cronus eating up his children and Zeus gutting him to rescue his brothers. I like all the analogy's of the same thing. Some are more imaginative and adventurous then others..


Well, yeah, in part because environments vary. If you're a desert nomadic culture you're going to see a different face of the archetype. You won't see Mother Nature as generous, for instance. You'll want to conquer her and take, take, take.

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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 04:40 PM
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What makes Yahweh and his followers crave the destruction of the Son of Man?
Scripturally, it is very evident that Yahweh's mission is the destruction of the sons of Edom.
It is an uncontested fact among Biblical scholars that the Hebrew word, "Edom", is a play on the word, "Adam".

"For My sword is satiated in heaven,
Behold it shall descend for judgment upon Edom
And upon the people whom I have devoted to destruction.

The sword of Yahweh is filled with blood,
It is sated with fat, with the blood of lambs and goats,
With the fat of the kidneys of rams.
For Yahweh has a sacrifice in Bozrah
And a great slaughter in the land of Edom.' (Isaiah 34:5-6)

Edom is the land of the descendents of Esau. It is also called "Seir".
The name "Esau" עֵשָׂו uses all the characters that make up the name, "Jesus" in Hebrew/Aramaic.
Jesus is known as the "Nazarene", or the "Naz Seir", the "Prince of Seir".
Jesus is also of the line of Seth, and is referred to as "the Son of Man" because He is of the lineage of Adam (ben Adam). Cain (Cohen/Khan/Cohn/Caan, etc) is the progeny of the sexual union between Eve and the Serpent. If you think the fall of man is all about eating a piece of fruit, think again.

"The one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother. For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another; not as Cain, who was of the evil one and slew his brother. And for what reason did he slay him? Because his deeds were evil, and his brother’s were righteous." (1John 3:8-12)


The seed of the serpent (Cain's descendents) work tirelessly on behalf of Satan/Yahweh towards the destruction of the line of the son of Man. The question is, "Why?".

The answer is to be found in the Gospel, Old English "God-spell"; Greek εὐαγγέλιον "Euangelion", means "good message". The Good Book is the Testament of Isa Chrestos, the "Good God". In the time of the formation of the early Catholic Church, "Chrestos" was changed to "Christos" meaning "the Christified One", or one who crystallized into the molecular world (the world of Molech); He who incarnated into the underworld, the world of death (Earth) to free its captives.

“For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father.” A division occurred again among the Jews because of these words. Many of them were saying, “He has a demon and is insane. Why do you listen to Him?” (John 10:17-20)

Jesus "died" when He willingly descended from the Pleroma to the carbonic world of decay.
He took up his life again on the cross of Molech giving up the ghost (soul, body, emotional earthly self) returning as Spirit to the Logoic Realm from which He first came. In this manner did He "double cross" the works of the devil demonstrating to mankind the Way out of this Hell.

We are all dead. Most of us just don't know it. We live under the influence of the Moon (Sumerian/Canaanite god "Sin"). "The wages of sin is death" (Rom 6:23) illustrates the gravitational force (grave = deathbed) of the physical interaction between the Earth and its moon, pulling, binding us to this prison planet.

The Hebrew title, "Messiah" (Mashiyach משיח ) means "Erect One Annointed with Blood and Semen".
You may find this hard to believe, but it is true. Look it up. Jesus was not Yahweh's Messiah. He was much greater than that.

"Mashiyach" ("Jewish Messiah") and "Nachash" נחש ("Serpent/Enchanter"); and, "Porne" πορνην (the "Harlot" of Revelation) each have a value of 358 in gematria and are thus strongly associated. The coming of the Jewish Messiah is the coming of the kingdom of the Serpent. Kundalini is a metaphor for the rise of the Anti-Christ to power.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Aesir26

Revelation 13:16 vs. Exodus 13:16 (hey, notice how the numbers are the same?)

"And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead." (Rev 13:16)

"So let it be a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead, for Yahweh brought us out of Egypt by the strength of His hand." (Exodus 13:16)

How is it that people still cannot see this? Are you blind? Can you not read?
The beast of Christ's Revelation is Yahweh, god of Moses, god of the Law and tribal deity of the Jews.

Christianity has nothing to do with Judaism. It is written countless times in the New Testament that the Jews were constantly trying to kill Jesus and His Apostles.


So are you claiming the God of Christians is different from the God of Moses? Doesn't the verse below from Revelations say The God of Moses is the same God as the one in Revelations?

Revelation 7v3-4
“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God."Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

And the scripture is very specific about 144k being Jews and not gentiles.

Revelation 14v1-4
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads...these are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.

It seems The Christian God is also the same God who marks people on their heads with his name, and the Christian God thinks women defile men when they have sex with them.

Amazing that people still buy this God stuff.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 05:15 PM
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Yeah, the OP is in denial. He can't accept the fact that God transcends all pairs of opposites and therefore is both good and evil and simultaneously neither. He seems to want it all to be simplistic, cut-and-dry, plain ol' good-vs-evil so that he can be the saintly good-guy who defeats occult bad-guys. It feels good, eh? Well sorry OP but that's not the way it is. Grow up. Reality is not dualism. It's monism. All is in all. Even the occult bad-guys that you mindlessly project your shadow-self onto.

"If you can't see God in all, you can't see God at all." - Siri Singh Sahib

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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Aesir26

Revelation 13:16 vs. Exodus 13:16 (hey, notice how the numbers are the same?)

"And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead." (Rev 13:16)

"So let it be a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead, for Yahweh brought us out of Egypt by the strength of His hand." (Exodus 13:16)


Woah! Nice find. Maybe you'll be interested in checking out this thread
[El/Al/Yahweh - The bull God (Aleph - Bull head), 7 The number of Set/Satan (Saturn)]



Originally posted by Aesir26
666 = Nezar HaQadosh "The Holy Crown" (of Moses and Aaron, Lev 8:9)
נֵ֣זֶר הַקֹּ֔דֶשׁ


This reminds me of The Crown Chakra which some believe is ruled by Saturn.


Originally posted by Aesir26
Yahweh is the god of war (Yahweh Sabaoth), of the holocaust (both human and animal sacrifice), of genocide, pillage, rape, usury, deception, death and disease.


Yup. I've known this for a while. Don't expect people to accept this though. Some just don't want to believe it's true.


Originally posted by Aesir26
Worshipping the god of the people who had Christ killed is the worst kind of blasphemy.


They will make up an excuse like "Jesus IS Yahweh!" or "It had to be done for God (Yahweh/El) to forgive us!"

Yahweh is a bad God (Saturn) and Jesus went against his teachings. Yahweh said love your neighbor and hate your enemy, Jesus said extend the love to ALL. Yahweh said Eye for Eye and Tooth for Tooth , Jesus said FORGIVE.

Remember, those who followed the Torah (The Jews / The Pharisees) did NOT like Jesus and criticized when he went against The Torah (Old Testament - supposedly "God's" word).



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by BlueMule
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Yeah, the OP is in denial. He can't accept the fact that God transcends all pairs of opposites and therefore is both and good and evil and simultaneously neither. He seems to want it all to be simplistic, cut-and-dry, plain ol' good-vs-evil so that he can be the saintly good-guy who defeats occult bad-guys. It feels good, eh? Well sorry OP but that's not the way it is. Grow up. Reality is not dualism. It's monism. All is in all. Even the occult bad-guys that you project your shadow-self onto.

"If you can't see God in all, you can't see God at all." - Siri Singh Sahib

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There is alot of merit to what you are saying here. There is way more proof that this is correct then false. Even the bible backs it. No wonder it's so contradictory! Besides the fact that alot of it was altered by man so that books were left out and stories were butchered. Not completely useless though.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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The jews do not see him as a prophet rather a heretic. To them he is just a magician who is full of nonsense. Which is ironic that he is considered king of the jews. Maybe this extends to the macrocosm? To me though Judas would be king of the jews. He handed over they're "bad guy" one who would challenge they're teachings. Run them out of the temples for being corrupt. So all in all he kind of saved them from the nazarene
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." (Gen 3:15)

This is the prophecy written in the stars as Bootes the Herdsman crushes the Serpens Caput under heel.
Eve (one among many other females) had been seduced, sexually, by the Serpent producing Cain and Abel out of that unholy union.

"And the man knew Eve his wife, and she conceiveth and beareth Cain, and saith, 'I have gotten a man by Yahweh". (Gen 4:1)

Genesis and the Book of Enoch patently describe the mating of the Elohim and human females:

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown."
(Gen 6:4)

"To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth, in pain you will bring forth children;
Yet your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” (Gen 3:16) Eve's desire hadn't been for her husband but for the Elohim.

Back to answering the question as to why the seed of the Serpent works zealously for the destruction of the Adamic race:
It is none other than the sons of Man who will ultimately judge the unrepentant fallen angels and their spawn for their crimes against God and against humanity. We, the Elect, are destined to rule over them.

"Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?" (1Cor 6:3)

This is the silver lining in the dark cloud cast over us by Yahweh. This is the Good News spoken of by Jesus and the Apostles, the Glory that is within our reach! It is the Angelic Message which the Synagogue of Satan has fought hard to suppress!

“WHAT IS MAN, THAT YOU REMEMBER HIM?
OR THE SON OF MAN, THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM?

YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS;
YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR,
AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;

YOU HAVE PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET.”

For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him." (Hebrews 2:6-9)

"For they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. (Luke 20:36)

Our rightful inheritance is to occupy the seats in Heaven vacated by those who followed Satan during the Fall. We are intended to trade in our degenerating fleshy robes to don incorruptible spiritual ones as newly formed angelic beings. The path has already been walked by Jesus. We only have to follow His footsteps.

"I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in Me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:12,6)



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Aesir26
"And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead." (Rev 13:16)

"So let it be a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead, for Yahweh brought us out of Egypt by the strength of His hand." (Exodus 13:16)

How is it that people still cannot see this? Are you blind? Can you not read?

And can you not see that the whole point of the Revelation mark is to replace the Exodus mark?
It's part of what defines the Beast as an "opposite".
Similarly the Beast is defined as "who was, IS NOT, and is to come" in direct opposition to the previous definition of God; "who was, IS, and is to come".
You have missed this "deliberate opposition" factor.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 07:59 PM
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Yahweh as the Beast of Revelation:

"He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men." (Revelation 13:13) By gematria the numerical value of "Yahweh/YHWH" is 26. Biblical scholars and occultists know this very well. Revelation 13:13 totals 26 (13+13) Let's look at this verse another way:

In the Jewish bible, who is said to make fire come down out of heaven?

The sun had risen over the earth when Lot came to Zoar. Then Yahweh rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh out of heaven, and He overthrew those cities, and all the valley, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground. (Gen 19:23-25)

And there came out a fire from Yahweh, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.
(Num 16:35)


And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of the Elohim, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty. (2 Kings 1:10)

Compare with Christ in Luke 9:54-56:

"And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elijah did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."
Huh?? If Jesus was indeed the son of Yahweh, He would have fried His enemies Old Testament style...

Point of interest: the words "even as Elijah/Elias did" have been deliberately omitted in many modern translations of this New Testament passage. Can you see why?





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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 08:28 PM
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There seems to be a lot of threads about the God of the OT these days...

Thank God (the real one) people are starting to wake up from their slumber...

S&F




posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by XsweetNspiceyX
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The jews do not see him [Jesus] as a prophet rather a heretic. To them he is just a magician who is full of nonsense.


I didn't say they saw him as a prophet. I said Jesus went against The Torah's teachings and that's why they didn't like him. One example is, Jesus saying that food can not defile you, only what comes out of your heart. That is against the Torah's food laws (Kosher). Jesus also did work on The Sabbath which is another thing against the Torah. The Torah says that when certain rules are broken the individual deserves death. The Jews were obeying God (Yahweh/El of the Bible). Yahweh is a destructive entity.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by XsweetNspiceyX
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The jews do not see him as a prophet rather a heretic. To them he is just a magician who is full of nonsense. Which is ironic that he is considered king of the jews. Maybe this extends to the macrocosm? To me though Judas would be king of the jews. He handed over they're "bad guy" one who would challenge they're teachings. Run them out of the temples for being corrupt. So all in all he kind of saved them from the nazarene
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edit on 07/16/2009 by Lichter daraus because: nevermind,stupid questio



posted on Jan, 27 2013 @ 12:33 AM
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No it's not a play on any words. Bozrah was the capital city of ancient Edom.

(Modern-day Jordan)

Check Isaiah 63.



posted on Jan, 27 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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The Edom (אֱדוֹם ) Adam ( אָדָם ) wordplay is well-known and is recognized by every serious theological researcher of Old Testament scripture.. Simply saying that it is not does not make it so. This poetic device is employed several times throughout the books of the OT. Both Edom and Adam mean "red" or "ruddy", as does "Esau". Furthermore, Esau of Edom is described as a "man of the field" as is,"Adama" the Hebrew word for "field".

Example of Yahweh's wrath against Edom/Adom using this wordplay:

Therefore thus says Yahweh, “I will also stretch out My hand against Edom (אֱדוֹם ) and cut off man ( אָדָם ) and beast from it. And I will lay it waste; from Teman even to Dedan they will fall by the sword. I will lay My vengeance on Edom by the hand of My people Israel. Therefore, they will act in Edom according to My anger and according to My wrath; thus they will know My vengeance,” declares Yahweh. (Ezekiel 25:13-14)

Yes, Bozrah, is the ancient capital city of Edom and is located in present-day Jordan. The name literally means, "sheepfold". The Israelites under the banner of Yahweh took great pleasure culling the herd of the sons of Man with organised regular massacres of the Edomites:

“But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their (the Edomites') possessions. And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining male again of the house of Esau.” (Obadiah 17)

“For it came to pass, when David was in Edom, and Joab the captain of the host was gone up to bury the slain, after he had smitten every male in Edom; (For six months did Joab remain there with all Israel, until he had cut off every male in Edom).” (1 Ki 11:15–16)


The sons of El are the sons of the Elohim: Israel. They are the Nephilim, the seed of the Serpent. The seed of Adam is the Sethian line of the sons of Man descending through Ishmael (Muslims) and Esau (Christians). Just as Yahweh mated with Eve, did he mix the Elohim DNA with the "barren" Sarah and the "barren" Rebekah creating his hybrid race of "chosen people", Israel.

“When the Most High (El Elyon) gave the nations their inheritance,
When He separated the sons of man,
He set the boundaries of the peoples
According to the number of the sons of Israel (God).
For Yahweh’s portion is His people;
Jacob is the allotment of His inheritance" (Deu 32:8-9)

"G-d" is the 7th son of Israel and Zilpah. English translations disguise the reading as "Gad", yet the Hebrew pronunciation is "God". The name itself means "Soldier of Fortune", that is Mercury/Hermes.
The Jews are worshippers the Fallen Djinn of the 7 ancient planets. Collectively, they are "Yahweh".
For example, the Father of the Law, the Jewish god of Justice, is "Jupiter" (Latin: "Jus + piter" = Law + Father).
Mt. Zion/Sion is Mt. (C)Hermon, said in both the OT and in the Book of Enoch to be the place of the Fall of Satan.

Jesus, on the other hand, is not of this world being the son/messenger of God Most High, El Elyon.

And yes, nothing has changed today as Israeli Jews continue the slaughter and displacment of Muslim and Christian Palestinians all the while conducting questionable military campaigns against their Ishmaelite neighbours through the UN. I agree with one of your earlier comments in this thread: the prophetic endgame is all about the depopulation and enslavement of non-Jews. The difference between us is that while you look forward to the destruction of the Ishmaelite people, I hope to prevent it.


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posted on Jan, 27 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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I like following 9-Na-Nia's channel on Youtube - this lady has some very unique and original ideas.
One of her analysis of scripture I think really relates to this thread and in my mind makes a lot of sense.

I strongly suggest people at least look at these short videos and see if it also makes some sense to them:

Pt 1/4 Genesis: Fallen Angels Masquerade as God?!!


Pt 2/4 Genesis: Y@hovah Steals Elohiym's Creation & Puts Humans in Servitude?!


Pt 3/4 Genesis: The Israelites were Immoral & Jesus Tried to Save Them?


Pt 4/4 Genesis: The Deception Lasts 6000 Years & Ends Now


Genesis 1-9 Outline: Two Different Gods & Promise of Deliverance/Judgment?


"God" "LORD" & "Lord Jesus" are Different Entities: Examining the Original Language


In the above videos she looks at scripture with the help of concordances to try and get to the deeper levels or meanings in scripture.

She regularly blows me away with her insights.

In short she shows that scripture mentions different gods but with things so intertwined that it is not easy to see this in a prophane way when reading these texts.
God (Elohim) does NOT equal LORD (Yahweh / Yehovah / YHVH).

The scribes indeed have misled many good people.



posted on Jan, 27 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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I read lots of scholastic work, and history. Bozrah was the capital city of ancient Edom. This was modern-day Jordan.






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