posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 03:31 PM
Originally posted by CX
The only problem i have with this is....
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
.....kind of gets confusing when it comes to this part...
and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States
What do you do? Obey the President, or the constitution?
Seems to be it's one or the other at the moment.
Another thing, what happens when the leaders of a country become the "enemy", or at least someone you have to defend yourself against?
I'd like to see someone graduate, then get refused their diploma.....then sue the ass off of the school or whoever is behind this.
That's from the oath the military takes, not the same one that is proposed for students. That one reads as follows:
I, _________, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic,
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and
that I will well and faithfully discharge these duties; So help me God.
As for defending the nation, well, when you have illegals in the public schools, and marching in the streets proclaiming that parts of America should
belong to Mexico, then I can see why someone wants this oath. Our tax dollars should not be paying to educate kids that are taught to revolt against
the nation. The second question, I will address below, as it applies to both.
Originally posted by 200Plus
reply to post by CX
I asked my commander that once. "what if the President's orders are against the Constitution"?
His reply was "the President's orders are never agaisnt the Constitution".
Scarey day and one of the major reasons I decided to retire.
Can understand that, but that commander was very mistaken! If ANY order is against the Constitution, thus unlawful, a service member is NOT required
to follow it. Now, that can get complicated, but it's a fact. By the same reasoning that Nazi soldiers were not excused by claiming that they were
"only following orders", an American service member would also not be excused, if they followed an unlawful order. It doesn't matter who gives
such orders, either. Of course, proving that, if one did decide to defy an unlawful presidential order, could be complicated, and would most likely
ruin a career (at best), but it would still be the right thing to do. Can understand retirement, though. Mine is working on that process now,
because of all the recent (past 4 years) changes in the military. Having a commander claim such a thing, and be so clueless as to how things should
be, is pretty scary, indeed!