John Wayne on Liberals...back in 1975...wild!!

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:40 PM
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It's actually just the opposite. I'm telling you the truth and that's the only agenda I have. As far as ATS goes, myself and a very few individuals are trying to clear waters that have been being muddied for decades. If you're curious about the actual Left, read some of the stuff Anok posts and I can provide you with links to other forums if you want but obviously I would have to do that off-site.




posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:00 PM
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Really? You mean the majority of the country just starred this thread? That's interesting.


99.9% of Americans aren’t ATS members and this thread ALREADY has more flags than 5 of your last 6 threads.
What does that say about your views??






Plenty of people were angry at liberals during Wayne's era. You know, with their desegregation and woman's rights? You know? Because everything was just fine before these changes. Minorities knew their place, right? I'm sure you're right on level with John Wayne.


YA RIGHT! The 'right wingers' are all racist!


You can’t win, bud, so stop while you're ahead.

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:19 PM
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99.9% of Americans aren’t ATS members


No, no they aren't. The majority of Americans don't agree with you, the elections are a clear example of that.

People like John Wayne rallied against liberal movements in the 50's and 60's because people like them didn't like seeing all individual americans granted more freedoms. People like him were fine and dandy with their State governments telling people where they could live, who they could marry, what schools they could go to, where their businesses could be placed, what they did with their bodies. When changes came about and rights given to everybody, the excuse was "constitution" this "morals and ethics" that.

We've come a long way since John Wayne, sorry.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

99.9% of Americans aren’t ATS members

You can’t win, bud, so stop


Ten per cent of voters were Hispanic - and 71 per cent voted for Obama

Democrats won younger votes, while Republicans scored older ones

52 per cent of men voted for Romney compared to 44 per cent of women

African-American votes for Obama achieved 2008 levels


President Obama's second term in the White House was largely secured by record numbers of votes from ethnic minorities, while his popularity among whites plummeted, exit polls have revealed. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Sorry Seabag. But unless your lot change. You will never win again.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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According to your profile:

Recent Pro Obama/Anti-Right Wing threads of yours = 5

Total number of COMBINED FLAGS = 7

Total score = EPIC FAIL


Nobody agrees with you, except maybe Kali.

(edit to add - oh, and BritofTexas)
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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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Brit…according to your profile:

1 anti GOP thread = 3 flags

Nobody agrees with you either.


(edit to add - BTW...can you guys make this any easier???
)

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:53 PM
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No, no they aren't. The majority of Americans don't agree with you, the elections are a clear example of that


The majority of Americans get their opinons from the "lame stream media" doesn't prove hes wrong.

There is an "inconvenient truth"



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by BritofTexas
 


Brit…according to your profile:

1 anti GOP thread = 3 flags

Nobody agrees with you either.


(edit to add - BTW...can you guys make this any easier???
)

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Yep. We are in the minority on ATS.

Thankfully not in the country.

That is why you and your friends got your backside handed you on a plate this last election.

Sorry. but the majority don't agree with you. And I don't even need to look at your profile to know.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:16 PM
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The majority of Americans get their opinons from the "lame stream media" doesn't prove hes wrong.


Ok, so the first it's the supposed majority of America that agrees with your view, then when this is shown to be incorrect, the next excuse is that they don't watch or read up on media outlets that meet your approval.

So tell me, what media outlets meet your approval Neo? What news group, or website, is not part of this "lame stream media"? Let us know here.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
How is a person to keep up with all of the nuances of the left?

I’m sorry my definition of left wing doesn’t correspond with yours but I sure know one when I spot’em!!


Well if you new what left-wing actually means, and the history of it you would know there is no left-wing in government. Unfortunately you get your definition from the right-wing establishment. I think that is what most of you fail to understand, the establishment is the right wing, the people are the left wing. The establishment cannot be left-wing because that would be suicide, why would the democrats support something that would inevitably mean them losing their power? All governments are, by the original and true meaning of left and right, right wing.

Obama and the demorats are liberals, and...

"Liberalism is not socialism and never will be" - Winston Churchill as the Liberal Party representative for Dundee, 1908. We all know Winston was a conservative.

For a political party to be truly left-wing it would be a party who represents the workers, and is actively working towards worker ownership. There hasn't been a political party like that since the UK Labour Party first started.
It started as a worker ran party, to represent the workers. But like all left-wing parties of that time, post-WWII they became liberal, and forgot all about any ideas of socialism.

If you would look at the history of the working class labour movement, instead of governments and authorities, you would see that it is where the true left was, and it wasn't liberalism. But you won't look at that history will you?
Afraid it might "convert" you. I know, because I was you at one time, closed minded and refused to even listen to anything 'left-wing'. It's because we are conditioned to think like that. The PTB didn't want a repeat of the Spanish Revolution. They don't want workers thinking they don't need the boss. Slaves have to be kept in their place.

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:09 PM
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Honestly I don't care if people agree with me or not just because a "majority" of people say something does not make it true.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:25 PM
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My grandfather says most of the same things that are in this clip. I guess he's just a delusional old white man, so rich too. So rich.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:28 PM
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You don't have to be rich to be a delusional old white guy.




posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:08 AM
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I know there was some talk about John Wayne being "difficult" to work with but wasn't Archie the brunt of the joke in those sitcoms? I mean he was the lesson in how not to be and how ridiculous and closed minded people could be. Everyone of them, Edith, Michael and Gloria made Archie look the stooge that he was. If I have lived to see everyone else wrong and Archie right...if in the MASH series Frank and Hotlips were the HEROS? Trapper and Hawkeye wrong... the bad guys? I'd have to say this is upside down, inside out world where the bad guys won.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK
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You don't have to be rich to be a delusional old white guy.



How come old white guys with lots of life experience are always "bigots"

Its been that way for decades, so its not just a generational thing. Maybe they are on to something? Maybe they have a reason to be bigoted that us younguns haven't experienced yet. Of course in our infinite wisdom, we just write old people off as delusional.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian
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99.9% of Americans aren’t ATS members


No, no they aren't. The majority of Americans don't agree with you, the elections are a clear example of that



Exactly, they are just bitter because "their guy" didn't win the election
They can't admit the fact they are out of touch with a changing world, their party needs to get with the times.





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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 02:24 AM
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At one point in time the "liberal agenda" was considered by republicans to be women voting and blacks being treated as equals.

Now days its things like gays being treated as equals or women having choice over their own bodies.....

...and sure enough in 40 years we know how those opposed are going to look...




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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
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John Wayne and Archie Bunker were also known racists... I don't know if I'd align myself with their political beliefs so quickly.


So racist his wives were all MEXICAN...



uh i just looked up all of this wives and they were Mexicans of clearly European descent so no that doesnt prove anything
unless you like many think all mexicans are POC
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 03:16 AM
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