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100,000 Innocent Iraqies Dead at the Hands of Bush (from ATSNN)

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posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 07:28 AM
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I have another thought about this thread in general.

Are you saying our boys over there, our sons, brothers, fathers, and husbands are over there slaying mass numbers of Iraqis? Are you saying that there is some massive coverup that reached our neighbors who have gone to Iraq? Are you saying that our troops are murdering innocent people at the request of george bush and it has been kept a secret.

If you want to accuse Bush of murdering 100,000 then think about someone you know in the military, because you are calling them a murderer and a liar.




posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 11:15 AM
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imas:

Are you saying our boys over there, our sons, brothers, fathers, and husbands are over there slaying mass numbers of Iraqis? Are you saying that there is some massive coverup that reached our neighbors who have gone to Iraq? Are you saying that our troops are murdering innocent people at the request of george bush and it has been kept a secret.

If you want to accuse Bush of murdering 100,000 then think about someone you know in the military, because you are calling them a murderer and a liar.



There's no coverup. It's in the media all over the place, except for the USA. You're killing thousands in Fallujah. Indiscriminately.

It's NOT the soldiers' faults. It's the fact that you're dropping huge bombs on civilian targets. Even if you drop a 3000 pound bomb on a dime, it's going to EXPLODE and spew death in a 3000 meter radius.

Some people trust what their government tells them.

And then other people are smart.


These deaths will be on the American VOTERS hands. Your tax dollars at work.

260 Billion dollars and counting for operations in Iraq. How much do you figure it would cost to, say, give better health coverage to Americans? Help out with the homeless situation?

But at least it's all for a good cause, right? I'm sure these 100,000 dead people's families agree.

jako



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 11:24 AM
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Is nyone surprised? We were overdue to start killing some brown people...



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 11:47 AM
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You can add another 600 onto that number.

An estimated 600 militants have been killed in Fallujah in this operation that just started a couple of days ago.


Boston.com
NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP) An estimated 600 insurgents have been killed since the start of the battle of Fallujah on Monday night, the U.S. military said Thursday.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 12:02 PM
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How many innocent people do you think died in ww2?? should we have left hitler continue his mass slaughter of people there as well???



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by Jakomo
It's NOT the soldiers' faults. It's the fact that you're dropping huge bombs on civilian targets. Even if you drop a 3000 pound bomb on a dime, it's going to EXPLODE and spew death in a 3000 meter radius.

And then other people are smart.


Alright smartypants.. Who in the world do you think is dropping those bombs? If it is not American soldiers than who? Who is selecting these targets?
American soldiers again.



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 07:04 AM
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Did anyone notice that these experts are estimating that Saddam Hussein killed at least 1 MILLION of his own people?



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by imas
Did anyone notice that these experts are estimating that Saddam Hussein killed at least 1 MILLION of his own people?


Tack on about 200,000 from Gulf War 1, subtract a couple tens of thousands for the casualties from US-supported insurrection of Kurds and Shiites in '91, then add 100,000 from the current war, and about 100,000 from post Gulf War 1 sanctions, and we're almost par.

Two million have died in Sudan from a useless civil war. If we're in Iraq for humanitarian reasons, why leave Sudan alone when they actually wanted someone to help them bring peace?



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 11:09 AM
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is there any oil in sudan?



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by edsinger

Originally posted by Jamuhn

Originally posted by edsinger
So its all Bush's Fault huh?

Well it just tells me how your mind works. We get 3000 dead and you are mad that we took the war to them.


So Iraq was at fault for 9/11 huh?

Well it just tells me how your mind works. Every country we attack or evey person arrested is automatically responsible for 9/11 or was in the process thereof....





Look wether you believe it or not, Iraq was involved with Al Qaeda, but to what extent we probably will never know. The war on Terror DOES involve IRaq and if you cant see that then fine...there will be no convincing you. I am sure glad you are not in the federal government....and making decisions.
IMHO
Ya, right Ed...you know, you picked information on your tin hat....



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Ya, right Ed...you know, you picked information on your tin hat....


So are you saying that we never found any terrorist training camps in Iraq? Saddam never rewarded the families of Palestinian suicide bombers to encourage more attacks on israel? There are more examples of Iraq's support for terrorism.

We are at war with all terrorists around the world. Not just the group that attacked us.

What is it with you people? You accuse me of being stupid and believing every thing I hear then you pull a line right off a George Soros website in the same post.



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu
Two million have died in Sudan from a useless civil war. If we're in Iraq for humanitarian reasons, why leave Sudan alone when they actually wanted someone to help them bring peace?


Iraq had the ability and had shown a willingness to provide terrorists with weapons of terror. We have declared war on terrorists and nations who provide material support to terrorists.

If this was a war for oil then where on God's green earth is all this oil? If we went into Iraq for oil then we would have had soldiers all over it and we would have had Iraq pumping at full capacity months and months ago.

If we went in for oil then why aren't we benefiting from it?



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Majic
Now that the election is over, I'm curious about how many people still believe this story was true.

Anyone out there still buying this "100,000 Innocent Iraqies Dead at the Hands of Bush" claim?

How, and why?


I believe it.
There have been an estimated 2,000 Iraqis killed just in Fallujah this month.
That's not counting all of those who died from car bombs or US air strikes in other areas of Iraq.




[edit on 20-11-2004 by AceOfBase]



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
I believe it.
There have been an estimated 2,000 Iraqis killed just in Fallujah this month.
That's not counting all of those who died from car bombs or US air strikes in other areas of Iraq.
[edit on 20-11-2004 by AceOfBase]


Your post illustrates the reason I don't buy into this GUESSTIMATED number.

Why does Bush want to kill all those poor innocent terrorists? They should be free to kill as they please. :@@
h please



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by imas
Your post illustrates the reason I don't buy into this GUESSTIMATED number.

Why does Bush want to kill all those poor innocent terrorists? They should be free to kill as they please. :@@
h please


The title in this post is misleading.
The study estimated the total number of deaths including insurgents but excluding Fallujah.

100,000 total killed, including insurgents and members of Saddam's army from the beginning of the war, is possible.



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by imas

Originally posted by taibunsuu
Two million have died in Sudan from a useless civil war. If we're in Iraq for humanitarian reasons, why leave Sudan alone when they actually wanted someone to help them bring peace?


Iraq had the ability and had shown a willingness to provide terrorists with weapons of terror. We have declared war on terrorists and nations who provide material support to terrorists.

If this was a war for oil then where on God's green earth is all this oil? If we went into Iraq for oil then we would have had soldiers all over it and we would have had Iraq pumping at full capacity months and months ago.

If we went in for oil then why aren't we benefiting from it?


Think really hard, while the looting was going on, what buildings and facilities did US troops protect?

Pumping the oil out of the country has proven a little difficult, what with insurgents blowing up every pipeline and transfer station every time they get repaired. So the oil is still in the earth or spilled out on the ground.



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 05:08 PM
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So you think we wen't to war for oil and even in our best attempts we have failed to protect the pipeline. But you still think we had the ability to stop the looting.

That just doesn't add up.



posted on Nov, 20 2004 @ 08:33 PM
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Since the first casualty of war is the truth I would guess the true estimate of Iraqi deaths to be somewhere between 20,000 and 100,000.

US government sources are of course going to make it sound as minimal as possible for US, Arab and the world's consuption.

People who want to make the war sound worse than it is blame deaths by old age and other things that would have occured anyway on the war.

Iraq is however IMO a quagmire, which in 20/20 hindsight was totally unecessary.

All you war-hawks have fun trying to make anything worthwhile out of Iraq.

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posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 09:28 AM
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Iraq had the ability and had shown a willingness to provide terrorists with weapons of terror. We have declared war on terrorists and nations who provide material support to terrorists.




ok so yeah lets just invade every country where terrorist can buy weapons. i wonder where they got all those kalishnokovs? sheesh if they buy a gun in canada that means we should invade canada too? our we gonna take over the world to make ourselves safer? or mabye just iran and syria...? what happens when we do that and 3 more nations show sign of anti-american sentiment? do we take over them as well? will the ammount of terror harboring nations grow exponentially to an extent we will be fighting on a level only rivaled by that of nazi germany? its like the kid in class who gets in an argument with a few kids, and when they prove him wrong and others agree he turns his hatred towards the entire class. we are the kid with the laser guided precision hyper drive ballistic launching ultra mechanic reinforced armored fully automatic highly explosive war juggernaut! those kids better be well prepared.



posted on Nov, 21 2004 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by sturod84



ok so yeah lets just invade every country where terrorist can buy weapons. i wonder where they got all those kalishnokovs? sheesh if they buy a gun in canada that means we should invade canada too? our we gonna take over the world to make ourselves safer? or mabye just iran and syria...? what happens when we do that and 3 more nations show sign of anti-american sentiment? do we take over them as well? will the ammount of terror harboring nations grow exponentially to an extent we will be fighting on a level only rivaled by that of nazi germany? its like the kid in class who gets in an argument with a few kids, and when they prove him wrong and others agree he turns his hatred towards the entire class. we are the kid with the laser guided precision hyper drive ballistic launching ultra mechanic reinforced armored fully automatic highly explosive war juggernaut! those kids better be well prepared.


Your liberal mentor michael moore is the one who attacked K-mart because some of the bullets used in columbine were traced to a kmart store. This resulted in kmart pulling out of the ammo biz.

Thats not a conservative tactic and you have drawn some wild conclusions based on the sentence you quoted. No one said anything about Canada. Besides that I wasn't aware that Canada had at any point produced any number of Kalashnikovs. That one is interesting.




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