Why is being “Homeless” such a bad thing? Maybe it's not!, page 2


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reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 11:54 AM by LesMisanthrope
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Why does society look on being homeless as a bad thing?


Because 'homelessness,' as an ideal, is not something to strive for. It implies that one is without a home, without a job, without a social standing, and without the necessary currency to survive healthily in a densely populated societal setting. It implies that in order to survive in the city, the homeless person must beg, leech off the system, scavenge through waste, or resort to illegal tactics in order to survive. The homeless man isn't free at all if he still resides in a city. There's no freedom in being homeless, as one is still under the pressure of the very city he lives in.

If one wants to be truly free, he should live outside the city and survive off nature and be fully self-subsistent, not having to rely on the waste and leftovers of others, and not having to submit to the laws and societal pressures of a city.


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 11:56 AM by Wanderer112358
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by Wanderer112358


Why does society look on being homeless as a bad thing?


Because 'homelessness,' as an ideal, is not something to strive for. It implies that one is without a home, without a job, without a social standing, and without the necessary currency to survive healthily in a densely populated societal setting. It implies that in order to survive in the city, the homeless person must beg, leech off the system, scavenge through waste, or resort to illegal tactics in order to survive. The homeless man isn't free at all if he still resides in a city. There's no freedom in being homeless, as one is still under the pressure of the very city he lives in.

If one wants to be truly free, he should live outside the city and survive off nature and be fully self-subsistent, not having to rely on the waste and leftovers of others, and not having to submit to the laws and societal pressures of a city.



What a pile of silly generalities there. This post is great example of the way society judges others.

Thanks.


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 12:14 PM by Wanderer112358
Originally posted by FreedomEntered
Yes, there are misconceptions. If you mean you CHOOSE to be homeless, then this may suggest you have savings etc to do so. If not then maybe you like the streets, who knows.

My point is that, gypsies are considered " homeless" by a great many countries and yet they have their own job, form of income, they lead cozy lives in their vans, travelling from place to place, but there is ALOT of prejudice towards their lifestyle. I cant think why. Maybe its because others do not understand them.

Then there are students who travel inbetween studies, but they usually have the backing of their family and some savings to do this, Its not really homeless.

Homeless implies without a HOME!


I have to admit that I intentionally chose the word "homeless" to spur discussion of the topic as a whole and not to just discuss people that are completely destitute or people living an adventure. What I wanted to discuss here was the bigotry, misconceptions of the word and whether there is a form of hate involved here.

From the posts so far, there is such a huge difference in what people see as being "homeless".

BUT, whether you are homeless out of choice or whether it is forced on you, if you see yourself as a victim then you are much worse off than if you see it as an adventure and a challenge to be overcome. That is what really needs to be discussed here in my view...

Peace
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reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 12:32 PM by intrptr
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I don't have a retirement, little money, no medical or life insurance, but I can honestly say that I have never been this happy in my whole life.

Because you are in the world but not "of it". Not a "product of the world" as it were. The pressure to conform is so great, shedding those "requirements" is like losing ones life. Now you know what it is to face the void, now you know what the word 'faith' means. When you have nothing to fall back on, that is not a state of "having nothing". That is when you learn to find and depend on a new inner guidance, not from within, but through our inward search for guidance that comes through us, if we'll let it. That is true happiness.

I don't mean "happy" like happy - celebrating, I mean a true inner peace. A lack of internal conflict between the way we live and the way we were meant to live. There is a void in most peoples souls their whole life because they have never ventured beyond the realm of comfort and "sureness" brought on by the maintenance of all that money, stuff and structure. If there is a true meaning to the word "be" you have discovered it.

Maybe you can relate...


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 12:33 PM by AfterInfinity
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Because stability and order is seen as civilized. Being able to establish a system and maintain it. It's all about order. We're afraid of chaos.


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 12:43 PM by Wanderer112358
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by Wanderer112358

I don't have a retirement, little money, no medical or life insurance, but I can honestly say that I have never been this happy in my whole life.

Because you are in the world but not "of it". Not a "product of the world" as it were. The pressure to conform is so great, shedding those "requirements" is like losing ones life. Now you know what it is to face the void, now you know what the word 'faith' means. When you have nothing to fall back on, that is not a state of "having nothing". That is when you learn to find and depend on a new inner guidance, not from within, but through our inward search for guidance that comes through us, if we'll let it. That is true happiness.

I don't mean "happy" like happy - celebrating, I mean a true inner peace. A lack of internal conflict between the way we live and the way we were meant to live. There is a void in most peoples souls their whole life because they have never ventured beyond the realm of comfort and "sureness" brought on by the maintenance of all that money, stuff and structure. If there is a true meaning to the word "be" you have discovered it.

Maybe you can relate...


Wow. You touched me so deeply. I have not mentioned once my inner spiritual understanding for this change in lifestyle, but to be honest, this change has been SO much deeper than just no longer living in a house.

Deep within me, this change was about refusing to be afraid and to live my life in fear any longer. I began to understand that we are not these frail, finite physical beings called humans. We in truth are actually powerful, infinite spiritual beings that were never born and will never die. Now, if I knew that to be true, then what is there to fear? This is the key to the whole enslavement issue. Once you begin to grasp that you really will NEVER die, what is there to fear? Yes, this body could starve or die, but this "avatar" body is NOT really me.

Once you just let go and follow your heart, life becomes a whole new place and a happiness comes over you like nothing you can imagine. Not enjoyment like a cheeseburger or a funny movie. More like a inner peace that makes me laugh in amazement. I no longer need "things". I can now just let go and live what is presented to me. I am no longer afraid...

Thank you for seeing this in me my friend.
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