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Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by iwilliam
There is a difference between "stripping" (present perfect tense) and "stripped" (past tense). No one can argue that the rights of Americans are not being slowly stripped away (albeit allegedly for the "greater good", our collective safety from terrorists -wink). Consider the harmless pot of cold water....now put it on the stove and turn on the heat to medium high....soon you will feel it getting warm...then small bubbles start to form....eventually it will start to boil. Now the cold water has changed to dangerously hot....but still no harm on the stove altho the potential is there. Now what if someone took that pot off the stove and threw the boiling water at someone.....you could change their life forever. The pot is currrently on the stove and we are past the bubbles forming stage. What happens after it starts boiling?
edit on 26-1-2013 by CosmicCitizen because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by madenusa
Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns.
What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology.
They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question.
So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.
Originally posted by TheNewRevolution
reply to post by iwilliam
As a witness to military arms and technology I have to disagree. Most of the military weaponry and basic tech is available to the public and certain licensees, which means it is out there and floating around. Even more so, all of this military gear you are talking about is being held on civilian manned supply bases around the United States. For ever tank the military has in use at any given time, there are 10 of them parked somewhere and guarded by a small troop in the middle of the US.
Just down the road from me is a Stryker batallion National Guard housing that is base to 10 Strykers, and about 15 armed Humvees. On any given weekday there are 4 - FOUR National Guardsmen guarding that base at most. If you know what a Stryker is, you would know that when it comes to mobile ground weaponry and what they are outfitted with, they are probably the best thing you can have next to a tank in terms of firepower and defense.
I know of about 20 other similar depots, some of them thousands of times larger than that. I've done computer work on some of them and they are manned and guarded by a dozen guards at any given time for hundreds of vehicles and weapons systems.
So my point is, if a revolution does break out do you really think that the first priority is not going to be to procure better weapons if they don't already have them? And as I already made it out to you - it is a task that is not very difficult at all.
As for your high end weapons - your missiles, your fighters, your WMDs - useless. Any high yield weaponry would risk mass casualties of innocents and ANY innocent casualties would only increase the support of the revolution. The government is smarter then that. Unless they would somehow be able to single out only rebel forces and be sure about it, there is no chance whatsoever that they would be using anything other than high caliber guns and small arms explosives - the same things available to any joe shmoe.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it
Originally posted by Nicks87
reply to post by TheNewRevolution
I agree 100% it's the same all over the country.
...And what makes these pro govt fools believe that the U.S. military is going turn their weapons on civilians anyway?
Every man and woman that serves in our armed forces knows what an unlawful order is and how to disobey it.
Originally posted by zeeon
I served in our United States Navy for 13 years. You have nothing to fear from me now
Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp
Originally posted by zeeon
I served in our United States Navy for 13 years. You have nothing to fear from me now
According to Janet Nutpalitano, you are a potential terrorist and enemy of the State.
Originally posted by zeeon
Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp
Originally posted by zeeon
I served in our United States Navy for 13 years. You have nothing to fear from me now
According to Janet Nutpalitano, you are a potential terrorist and enemy of the State.
Tell me about it. It's unfortunate that people like her (who I might add have never served their country in combat) treat veterans with such disdain. However, as long as the men in white coats or black suits don't come knocking on my door trying to take me away she is free to speak her trash.
I'm all about peace my friend. I served too many years helping the war machine kill people. I will never turn on my fellow American - ever.