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I call on you, the enraged citizen, to lay down your arms at once!
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by doesntmakesense
I call on you, the enraged citizen, to lay down your arms at once!
I'll lay down my arms when I'm dead.
I meant in the sense of don't go out and shoot up some place with them.
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by doesntmakesense
I meant in the sense of don't go out and shoot up some place with them.
I would never shoot anybody unless I absolutely had to.
Originally posted by TheNewRevolution
I'm still waiting on what we are "waiting" for exactly. What are we supposed to do if not eventually revolt?
We have done protests. We have petitioned our government. We elect new leaders. None of it works. Nothing changes. They do not care about the wills of the people and there is nothing that "waiting" is going to do to change their minds.
Please, for the sake of everyone's sanity inform the public of what the plan is and what "waiting" is going to accomplish in the long run. Just look how far WAITING has gotten us already.
Originally posted by iwilliam
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Cold, DEAD,
HANDS.
Who the heck you think you're kidding?
:shk:
OP is not saying to give up your guns... OP is saying not to fan the flames of hatred more than we have.... OP is saying that there may be a plot to instigate a kind of "revolutionary action" thus enabling them to strip us of ALL our rights. I think you should re-think the message.
especially when those in power have access to one of the strongest militaries
and some of the most advanced technology in the world.
as this would allow them to completely lock us down and take ALL our rights.
That is why.
Originally posted by ColCurious
reply to post by doesntmakesense
1. A revolution does not necessarily and exclusively have to be violent.
2. Why do you assume from the outset that a revolution would fail (the government wins)?
3. What would you win by playing on time, provided that the required critical mass for a revolution would exist?
Originally posted by tkwasny
The founding fathers established all means possible to avoid armed revolution through making the ballot box a means of extreme govt change possible.
That is... until electronic voting that could have never been foreseen to exist. One click and millions of voices are disenfranchised.
If someone wants to rig a vote, then hole punch or not, the vote will be rigged. There is very little to actually prevent corruption, if the system is corrupted enough. The only way to stop it is mass revolt. mass non compliance with the corrupted system. But that's not easy, as this corrupted system is interwoven with every day life, and many aspects of it are not corrupted, but rather integral to our modern living. People don't like the upset that a full scale revolution would create. But at some point, it has to happen. There is no avoiding it, capitalism is dead on its feet. The corruption from the banking elites, from the goverment and from major players in world business have seen to that. And they are making us foot the bill. And in one respect, the opening post of this thread is right. A full revolution would be playing into their hands. But in the other, not revolting is also playing into their hands and saying "sure, do what you want to us, we'll just go along with it, take our money, our rights, our lives. Aslong as you get rich of it, we're cool with it".
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by tkwasny
The founding fathers established all means possible to avoid armed revolution through making the ballot box a means of extreme govt change possible.
That is... until electronic voting that could have never been foreseen to exist. One click and millions of voices are disenfranchised.
And you have a point here.
Energy needs to be pushed into vast grassroots campaigns to get the voting booth issues resolved. Even if the problem is minimal, everyone (both sides, but especially the left) feels the voting booths are rigged and want more accountability, more paper trails, etc. a automatic hole puncher or something in this case is far more trusting than a computer program...voting needs to remain low tech and heavily monitored to make sure George Smith the guy counting doesn't accidently dump a crate or two of votes to someone he doesn't like.