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reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 05:38 PM by Perhaps
reply to post by Xtrozero


Xtrozero, please accept my apologies for unjustifiably doubting the credibility of your OP - lesson learnt on my part.

This post

Cheers.


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 06:29 PM by CthulhuMythos
reply to post by Xtrozero


Perhaps it would be a good idea to have the first line of defense a CCTV camera at the door rather than a gun, second line of defense a grilled hatch with a small door that can open where she can speak face to face but still have the door locked. That way she can decide if she trusts them enough to open the door, where her third line of defense could be a weapon for just in case and of which she could inform them before opening the door.

Hope she manages to make a speedy recovery.
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reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 06:39 PM by WeRpeons
reply to post by Xtrozero


The question is, would your neighbor have answered the door armed if she did have a gun in the house? Sounds like the thugs jumped her as soon as she opened the door. Granted, if someone else was in the house they might have had time to run and get a gun, but what if they got to them before they reached the place where the gun is stored?

Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything wrong with someone arming their home with a gun, but in this instance, it doesn't seem like she would have been able to get to it. Than what happens if the thugs found the gun and than uses it on her? There's always that possibility.

If gun owners are supposed to secure their guns and lock them up, how are they supposed to get to them when they don't have the time to get the key and open their gun cabinet. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of protecting your life and home from intruders?


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 06:54 PM by Infi8nity
Originally posted by Perhaps
reply to post by Xtrozero
Well guess what fella??... I have major doubts about the validity of your OP.


...They beat her up, she is in her late 60s, duck tape her, dragged her around by her hair, and robbed her. After they left she was able to slip out of her coat that had all the duck tape on it, and go next store... She was beat up pretty good.
While the above is more than possible and I wish for her wellness if so, is there any chance of providing an article/link to confirm this??
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Does it really matter if it actually happened? It happens ALL THE TIME!!
%99.9 crimes just as this one do not end up on the news. Most of the time they are not even reported to the news.
You do realize EVERY THING posted in main stream news sources is posted to manipulate the public right? If it does not fall within their public manipulation plans at the moment then why would they waist their time posting it?

You can all ready see most people on this thread are talking about fire arms including you. If this was posted on the news what would the public's reaction be? Only if she had a gun.

Like I said, even if this particular story did not happen their are hundreds exactly like it every year.


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 08:39 PM by Xtrozero
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Xtrozero


That sucks X.

So I take it, your neighbor wasn't armed? I also take it shes not cautious to strangers knocking at the door late at night? I only ask. Not that everyone with a weapon, should have it locked and loaded, only that even those who are armed can have this happen to them. Personally, if someone is knocking at the door late, I would be wary. Maybe wary enough to grab my gun first, and ask who is it, last.......


S&F

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Not armed in any way. She was the HOA president a few years and the guy said he lost his dog. When she unlocked the door another guy jump out of the bushes and knocked her down getting access to her house.

My family are not allowed to open the door to a stranger. My wife has access to a gun in the kitchen and bedroom. I do talk about that if someone knocks on the door and then when you don't open it breaks in she should shoot and not talk at all.


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 08:41 PM by Xtrozero
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
reply to post by Xtrozero


Wow......any updates on how she's doing? That's a lady that needs to get herself a gun, and learn how to use it! Those things tend to go in waves, so be very careful.

You are right; this is a very good reason for people to own guns!


Her son is staying with her for now. Her face is beat up and she is missing some hair as they pulled her around the house by her hair, but physically she will recover. It's a shame, she is/was a very out going older lady....not sure now though.


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 08:58 PM by Xtrozero
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by Manhater


I'm wondering how the dog adoption thing is doing? A dog is a very valuable thing to have - besides they're cute and good companions. And - THEY BARK loudly when a stranger is approaching, if they're trained right. Not attack dogs, but know family and friends, and know that it's

This is what our country has become.


No dog, but we have a Husky. I think I read that people with dogs have about an 80 present less chance of being robbed


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 09:00 PM by TKDRL
reply to post by Xtrozero


Husky is a good choice, great dogs. I got a husky and a mastiff
Almost as good as a wolf and a bear


reply posted on 24-1-2013 @ 09:13 PM by Xtrozero
Originally posted by Perhaps


...They beat her up, she is in her late 60s, duck tape her, dragged her around by her hair, and robbed her. After they left she was able to slip out of her coat that had all the duck tape on it, and go next store... She was beat up pretty good.
While the above is more than possible and I wish for her wellness if so, is there any chance of providing an article/link to confirm this??


Please give me some credit...

Duck Tape




Now, I'm guessing that you're a competent owner and user of firearms - yes/no??


I don't know...28 years of military service and I still go to Afghanistan now as a contractor....I think the term competent doesn't fully tell how good I am with firearms.



Because if the answer is yes, you would well know that your wife isn't going to develop "pretty good skill" within the evening...??
While you being an owner of firearms, it never occured to you previously that your partner may have a need to protect herself and at least be familiar with the use of your firearms??



No, she knows how to shoot, but I never really practiced home evasion scenarios with her. Now I practice getting out of bed in the middle of the night, pitch black, and get my gun extremely fast. For her it was get the gun from the kitchen, take it out of the small gun case, turn on the laser and point it at the front door....after about 30 times she got rather quick, but I know it is something to continue to practice...this was a part of in my face reality that I realized I never worked with my wife on.


You are already armed - if the content of your OP was the convincer, what were your reasons for being armed in the first place??

...again, I have my doubts about the OP.


Look at my ATS history... enough said...I got a little more integrity than to make up some story for stars, or whatever...

My point is we debate this and I am armed, but it is nothing like a reality check to basically take all the armchair constitutional lawyers we seem to have on ATS and see that they are full of it...


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