Anonymous Calls For Civil War To Remove US Government!

Be wary and avoid anyone calling for a violent overthrow of government. It's just not necessary, non violent methods and tactics have been proven to work just fine and have prevented the use of higher levels of violence in response (you don't bomb unarmed protestors in front of news cameras, even the worst dictators hesitate to do so and if they do the response is often a UN or NATO campaign against you).

We have a system in the US and can still work within it. The main problem keeping real change from happening is a lack of a coherent, planned alternative. People scream for change but it's always one issue at a time rather than addressing systematic corruption.

What we need are true visionaries, qualified intellectuals and educators to draw up a framework of reforms to address the corruption and stasis pervading our system. Things like term limits for all offices, anti influence peddling regulations, tax reforms like a sales tax based flat tax without all the fun and games the current power structure wants to latch onto it, court appointment reforms, etc. We need a well planned out set of changes. With this and a signed pledge by a new party to implement it we could change our system overnight using the election system, for example. If there are indications this is interfered with illegally the next step would be peaceful protest and general strikes - tools which have caused entire governments to resign in other countries.

The remedies against tyranny are not a short cut. They are to be used only after the tools of peaceful change built into our system are exhausted and then only if prevented by illegal interference. A bored public unwilling to participate does not count and such a populace will get exactly the amount of tyranny they allow, no more and no less.

reply to post by ecoparity


nicely said

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by retirednature
Why don't these punks remove the mask and run for office.

Because they know elections are rigged.

Elections are only rigged to a certain extent. Being that they're so smart, I'm sure it wouldn't take much for them to 'rig' it in their favor. Lets face it, people voted for Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush and so on. Do the tallied votes actually reflect the truth about the election? Probably not. Would it change anything? Probably not.

We're stuck in this partisan loop that is nearing a close, in my opinion.

It's the paradigm in which people view their relationship with government, and their options that need to change.

avoiding rant

im calling bs on this one.

or at least some morron who "thinks" hes/she part of anon. lol

but i guess if you want to be anon, just say you are anon heh.

i do not believe this is from the collective. but merely a piece , making his or her own videos(or some other group i cant think of any that would want to start anything, nsa, cia, fbi, atf, dhs, ^^). its to soon for a small /young org, to be calling for something like this.


not to mention there would 50 million media outlets running with it, not this activist posts, lol

thats not to say if i see 4000 people marching down the street with guy fawkes masks on, that i wont go grab mine and join ^9

It was just a matter of time before these loony tunes crossed a line they cannot backup from. If this is an official statement from them, they have constructed their own demise.

IHMO, if you are a member of this misguided fraternity of script kiddies, it is a good time to find the blinking exit sign.

reply to post by ecoparity


Bang dead on skippy!!
Star to you and a few E-hugs as well!
We have all of the means we need to peacefully overthrow the feds!
As long as we stand together, they are wholly impotent.
They are there to provide for us, not the other way around.

reply to post by charlyv


anonymous stirs the pot with governments all over the world. While some say it is a cia front and it may hold some truth, Americans have no interest in stirring the pot in half the countries that anonymous is.

Thats why I say that they are not a direct cia front, they are more heavily involved with the UN and its completely obvious.

O'course, the guy could be from a TLA wonk dressed up as Anonymous and make all sorts of rabid claims in a real similar video, then they'd have to live with it. That's the problem with an 'organization' like that, you can pretend to be one and how can they deny it? I could see it going sort of like this:

Fake Anonymous: "Arr, I am Anonymous - and I intend to cause death and destruction for the cause!"

Real Anonymous: "No no we didn't say that"

Fake: "Yes Yes we did! We are the real Anonymous! Fear us!"

Politician: "Today, Anonymous made a terroristic threat, and we have to spend a bazillion dollars to eradicate them - for the children"

Real: "But we DIDN'T SAY IT"

Fake: "Arr, yes we did, we will KILL THE CHILDREN. AND DOLPHINS. And we are going to HACK THE SUPER BOWL MWA HA HA!"

MSM: "Today, the super bowl was cut off by the evil terror cult Anonymous. And some children DIED (pic) Oh, the humanity!"

President:"We have to take immediate conclusive action to prevent any more football hacking, or child murdering. Therefore, we are moving to swiftly register every user of the Internet. All mail, messaging and posting records will be collected by the government by sending them all to a central point. For the children. And for FOOTBALL!"

MSM: (fawn, fawn, gush) "No one ever said the First Amendment was immune to reasonable regulation! The Founding Fathers never knew about teh Intertubes! The first amendment was intended to make a free MSM, not to allow every idiot to post anything they wanted! It's for US, the NEWS MEDIA! We're PROFESSIONALS!"

President: "This culture of free speech - it's an annoying holdover from ignorant heartlanders. They bitterly cling to the concept that they can say whatever they please, while the more enlightened people - like me - understand that limits have to be imposed. You can't say the building's on fire, for example. We all agree on that. It's obvious. But these people want to say things that we don't agree with, and that's just, well, we have to change that culture. To do what we want, without question"

See? It could happen. It's still sort of funny but lately it's not so fiction-y any more.

Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by Phantasm

 

Hmmmm...
Then I guess this anon campaign is headed by the ptb.
They are the ones who NEED an uprising, otherwise why all of the blatant overt lies and screwups?
Can't afford to pay the bills??? Claim default due to a civil war and robbery of the treasury via rebel forces!!
I think we have seen this scenario before haven't we??
Give it a bit longer and watch the worms squirm as they try to pay all of their debts!
Wait and see.

Now this gives a different perspective on this....

What if this is a false flag and the real agenda is to cause people to speak out or act out against the government which in turn would give them [gov.] cause to label citizens as "terrorist" and therefore would lay the foundation to take away ALL gun rights which could be the start to a revolution of sorts. And throw in the mix of high debt and unemployment, unstable to say the least.

[Just a hypothetical scenario, all made up not to be taken seriously.]

I believe The Transformers Cartoon series & movies far more than this video in the OP.

If anyone believes this... I've got an igloo Casino in Africa for sale if you're interested.

reply to post by snarky412


Yes..yes.

Obama wants a civil war.
Did you watch the inauguration?
He stood there acting like he resurrected lincoln.
He even wore and extra long jacket.

This is not real. This is someone claiming to be Anon who is not.

The real, actual members of Anon have participated in the Arab Spring movement, providing dial up internet access after governments such as Egypt used the kill switch to disconnect the country, helping protestors communicate by placing tweets and blog entries on their behalf, posting videos, etc.

The REAL anon knows perfectly well how to effect change without violence. They would never call for an armed uprising, at least not until all other avenues had been exhausted and let's face it, the US public has barely even started to try and make real change.

I would edit the title or move this thread to the hoax bin.

reply to post by snarky412


"lay the foundation to take away ALL gun rights which could be the start to a revolution of sorts"


snady ook, aurora, 9/11... they have already started, and this isnt it.

reply to post by ecoparity


Welcome to the digital age of agents provocateurs. At least, that's what it sort of looks like.

reply to post by ~widowmaker~


they're trying really hard to make someone else make the first move.

Because what they are doing doesnt win hearts or minds.

Originally posted by snarky412

Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by Phantasm

 

Hmmmm...
Then I guess this anon campaign is headed by the ptb.
They are the ones who NEED an uprising, otherwise why all of the blatant overt lies and screwups?
Can't afford to pay the bills??? Claim default due to a civil war and robbery of the treasury via rebel forces!!
I think we have seen this scenario before haven't we??
Give it a bit longer and watch the worms squirm as they try to pay all of their debts!
Wait and see.

Now this gives a different perspective on this....

What if this is a false flag and the real agenda is to cause people to speak out or act out against the government which in turn would give them [gov.] cause to label citizens as "terrorist" and therefore would lay the foundation to take away ALL gun rights which could be the start to a revolution of sorts. And throw in the mix of high debt and unemployment, unstable to say the least.

[Just a hypothetical scenario, all made up not to be taken seriously.]

Not as hypothetical as I wish it were!
The US has used this exact series on other countries, what happened to Iraq's stockpiles of gold and US fiats??
Gone with the wind!
If the US can goad small pockets of resistance to waco themselves then the hardliners (the ones who will fight) can be wiped out easily.
If it were say a full town or a city, things change drastically.
We must hang together or we shall surely hang seperately!
Quote by....dunno some old dead guy.

So I am not sure what to think about Anonymous in general, but sure seems like anarchy is hidden in their agenda. Like a wolf in sheep's clothing. Another thing that bothered me is if you are going to rally "the people" should you not get the historical facts straight? I mean he mentioned the words "restore our Democracy". Our country was founded as a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy!

Originally posted by Happy1
anonymous appears to be a gov't entity as the law-abiding gun owners of the US are not going to fire the first proverbial shot.

DING DING DING! We have a winrar!

Anon, while not an organized group nor one with any particular "leader" per se, is absolutely a skull connected to the neck of an alphabet agency. The head may believe it is autonomous and "doing its thing", but in reality the neck is in control, turning the head in whichever direction it wishes. The feds are flinging lit matches into the woods right now, praying one of them will start a fire.

awful fear mongering.
2nd line.