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On the 40th anniversary of JFK’s assassination, a recent FOX News poll shows most Americans disagree with the government’s conclusions about the killing. The Warren Commission (search) found that Lee Harvey Oswald (search) acted alone when he shot Kennedy, but 66 percent of the public today think the assassination was “part of a larger conspiracy” while only 25 percent think it was the “act of one individual.”
New National Poll: 36% of Americans Believe 9/11 Was an Inside Job
According to one poll about 25% believe in big foot
I myself found my way here from a fringe topic I was researching. I instantly joined
"Are ATS members special
Do the Policies of ATS create a better informed citizen?
to debate the legendary Druid42
ATS membership is a very tiny slice of the population of the world
not 66% or 25% but closer to 100%
When you are sampling for a poll, you take a tiny slice. Exit polls, for example, only include 300 people, yet MSM can build results from them
While exit polling is a notoriously inexact science
from the broad membership, have an expert in nearly every field: Westcoast and Puterman are our earthquake experts. Phage is the anomaly expert. Agarta is our graphics expert. Rising Against is the JFK expert. Ngchunter is our astronomy expert. Slayer69 is our archeology expert.
ATS has gained integrity over the years as a reliable source of valid and honest information.
This is true somewhat...but how far out does that extend from ATS ?
how honest and valid did all the posts on 2012 being the end of the world turn out?
My point being, in order to have an accurate slice of the population represented here, you would need folks that do not believe in any sort of Conspiracy theories, I do not think they are here..
Thank you for reading , and I await your reply
we all believe in something considered conspiricy related, and the general public does not.
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In reply, I'd like to ask my opponent who we were before we joined ATS, and I'll suppose he'll answer a member of the general population. Just my guess.
The general public does believe in conspiracy theories, it's why they search the internet, find a link to ATS, and lurk the forums. Yes, there are far many more lurkers than actual contributing members, and this link, in fact, tells me that there are
The membership of ATS comes from all walks of life, from housewives, computer programmers, bankers, mechanics, cowboys, and even adolescent youth. What you are in real life does not matter on ATS, you retain the utmost anonymity, and knowing this, it's easy to realize that ATS members come from all over the planet, those people who like to question, search, and discover answers. Well, we don't have all the answers here, but that's half the fun of being a member. You are representing your knowledge, (or lack thereof) with a forum full of like-minded individuals
This debate is not about the size of the samplings. The percentages my opponent has presented are only numerical values, and do not really deal with the topic at hand. We, in this debate, are talking about how accurately ATS represents the current mentality of the population of the world as a whole
a distinct segment of a market.
pertaining to or intended for a market niche; having specific appeal:
First Round: Druid42 makes an interesting overview of the ATS membership but okiecowboy does a fantastic job at rebutting Druid42’s facts while strongly positioning his views that ATS is conspiracy driven, opposing his opponent’s views, demonstrating that the general population is not.
First Round: okiecowboy.
Second Round: Druid42 comes back with a crucial point, the current events that the general population reads while not being conspiracy theorists. Another good point is the diversity of the membership, geographically and from all walks of life which could represent a microcosm of the general population at large. This second post’s boat seemed to have left without okiecowboy, his post being brief and not really challenging.
Second Round: Druid42.
Third Round: Druid42 goes deeper in his point of view, stating guests are affecting the numbers previously brought forward by his opponent and again emphasizing on the membership’s diversity. This time, okiecowboy didn’t just get on the boat, he manoeuvred his way to a better argument, especially when stating that SOME of the general public believes but not ALL.
Third Round and therefore the Match: okiecowboy.
Thank you to both fighters for a very interesting read.
I give the debate to Druid42.
Even though Okiecowboy pointed out that some of the topics discussed on ATS are outside of what is considered normal, Druid42's counter-argument was excellent; highlighting the fact that it's not just the membership of ATS that reads the threads, it's also a vast number of non-members that partake in what ATS has to offer.
Druid42 also highlighted the fact that some of the most well-known members on this site are "experts" in areas such as archaeology, astronomy, graphics, etc...not just the fringe topics like UFOs and such.
But at the same time, Druid42 discussed how trends on ATS and hot topics on the forums can and do reflect the current state of mind within the general population, like gun control.
It was a tough debate to judge and I think that the debate went a little off-track from the original topic in certain spots, but overall it was a good debate.
This was an interesting debate, and I admit I was watching this one from it's inception, because when I first joined the site, the general consensus was that it was a very tiny segment of the overall population that was here, and some nutcases that had nowhere else to go. However, that has indeed changed over the years and while Cowboy made some very good points about niches, he fell short of the spirit of the topic, which was after all, does Does ATS represent a good slice of the population.
Druid brings up about exit polling and sampling, and does a very good job of this. It's something that Cowboy no matter how hard they try, cannot overcome and in the end, it's what swung this debate to Druid. The fact that just because it's a small sample, does not mean it's not a diverse, representative group that in our own way mirrors the population as a whole.
After all, even in a small office setting, there are the intellectuals, the goofballs, the nutcases, and the conspiracy theorists. While it may have been true at one point in the distant past that ATS was a niche site, it no longer is the case, and Druid did a stellar job of pointing that out.